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SPEAKER_00 0:46

There's three power levels for like Saiyans as a super. So you got Goku's path, which led to Autonomous Ultra Instinct. And that's that's some rare, rare, off-brand. Only deities can even use that. And because he had tapped into the deity power, he was able to do it. But even like certain people can't do it, even deities. So him doing it was like a it was legendary for him to do it. Vegeta, on the other hand, had a different path, which was more of the deep of the um destroyer path, a deity like a demonic power. It was taught autonomous ultra ego. Totally different path that Goku can't do. Neither one of them can do each other's paths now. And then Gohan went a totally new path because he, I mean, they don't really get into it in the story, but the conjecture or the inference is that him trying to balance out his mom's request to be normal. And then still his dad and and everybody around him constantly powering up, and Piccolo constantly everybody telling him, like, man, get back on your game. You gotta train. So he started training again. Get back on your shit, G. But when he was training, he refused to power up. He said, I'm not doing that shit. Fuck that. That's y'all shit. I don't want to do that. So he trained, like, because he started remembering when he was a kid, and when Piccolo trained him, he ain't knew about powering up. He was like, I was doing some shit. So he trained without powering up. And so he got to a point where he trained so hard that without actually changing into another state, like a super saiyan or whatever, he was able to go toe-to-toe with Goku and Blue, but never power up. And so through hand in the hand, no, he was still able to do all his shit. He figured it out, he figured out the purpose. That's what I call it. Like Gohan found perfection because he don't have to power up. And then through that, he still had you know, he had that rage thing that he does, right? Right. So, but so in and that is where he created a whole new path. Because in a moment of rage, without powering up, but being at the high level that he was, he did become he did transform and he became something called beast mode. Oh, that's what you tell. No, no, no, no. Beast mode is Gohan's own thing. It's nothing no one has ever done, no other person has ever done it. Oh, okay. They all in they all in separate territories now. So it when they finally really get deeper into super like this the Dragon Ball Super Series and continue that, that's where we'll start to see how they all different now. Like it won't be no duplicating, like it's not like pick, let's not like Vegeta now trying to compete with Goku to find a path. Goku got his path and Vegeta got his own path. Where Vegeta's path could lead to the to being like a beer as the destroyer. Goku could lead to being an angel. And then Gohan is just like a whole nother thing because when he goes into beast mode, it's like it don't matter what you do to him. It's like it's Hulk mode. It's like I'm fucking everything up. Rage, straight rage, rage, rage harnessed into like a full level of battle force.

SPEAKER_02 3:57

What's the ultimate end game for Dragon Ball, though? Is it like someone trying to be the ultimate champion? Is someone trying to take over the universe? Like it's not always fighting, but like nah, it's it's it it was that having the power levels, like what was so it was that that was the Dragon Ball Z series.

SPEAKER_00 4:14

The Dragon Ball Z series was about these all the people that at some point from Piccolo on that wanted to take on the universe, take over the earth. Okay, so Piccolo wanted to take over the earth, Majin Buu wanted to take over the earth. Um the Android series was about um um I forgot what his name was, but it was a it was a doc, it was a doctor, engineer who um from the robot army or the ribbon army, excuse me. Okay so the ribbon army is an army that Goku beat in the original Dragon Ball series when he was still a kid. He stopped them from taking over, uh-huh, from waging war and conquering the earth. So they had um animosity towards Goku since then. So they designed robots or androids, and that they had study all of the different um people from um the Dragon Ball Z fighters, and so these robots, these androids was was badass. But the problem was in that training, the train the study that the robots did was only of them on Earth, and there was a whole Namekian series where they was in space against um what the fuck is his name? Why I can't remember his name right now. Um, you know I'm talking about um Frieza, yeah. So Frieza, Frieza and then was fighting in space on Namek. This is a long ass time ago, and so none of the fighting on Namek where they where where Goku first went Super Saiyan, nobody they did the androids didn't know that they only knew about the fights on Earth. So when they get to battling, and then you know and they see this up level, but wait, this didn't match the calculations. Like we wasn't ready for this, and then in the middle of all that, there was a there was a super android that they created known as Cell. Now, Cell really didn't want to take over the Earth, he just wanted to be the perfect fighter, right? He was post he was designed to kill Goku, but when he realized like all them Z fighters, yeah, he was like, and he was like, you know what, y'all can't beat me, so I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna get because he was a he was an organic android, so he had cells from all of the all of them, so he could do all of their power sets and everything. But he said, Since y'all can't beat me right now, y'all go do y'all training. How long you say you need? Are y'all gonna go into that hyperbolic chamber and one one day is a year, and y'all gonna spend a year in there? So that's a long time to train, right? So they went into the hyperbolic chamber. He's like, I'll wait. So when they but at the end, he created something called Cell Games, where all of basically everybody entered this tournament, it was all the fight, the toughest fighters, and they battled. Okay, and it was all uh, you know, kind of it was all it was all for for him, it was all for fun, you know, because he just wanna beat everybody. But so it was no one, just no arch nemesis that just like there was there was Frieza, Frieza Frieza was the emperor of the season freezer, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that was Frieza's the height of a person that just wants to conquer for the sake of conquering. Majin Bu was um Bobbidi's demon, and Bobbidy was a um sorcerer who was um trying to basically conquer the Earth realm. He was from the demon realm, so that was another person that was the last series of Dragon Ball Z was with Majin Buu. And that was one that was great because that was the point where Vegeta unlocked his full potential and was going toe-to-toe battling Goku because it was a long story. But after that, super is not about just them raising power lift, they conquered everybody in the known. There's nobody in the in the in the universe that could beat them at this point. So, what happens though is that um super is about um the destroyer, god the god of destruction, having it having this dream about this legendary super saying that's supposed that he could fight because you know he he be he a god of destruction, he wanna fight and kill shit. Yeah, he wanted to so he go looking for it and he realized none of these niggas is really powerful enough to beat him. He tried to fight Vegeta, he tried to fight Goku, he's like, Y'all are weak, but then he was like, you know what? Here's an idea. We're gonna let you here's a way for you to tap into God power, and then maybe you can match me a little better. So Goku tapped into the God power and they battled. And through that, God, when the God power wore out, Goku kept fighting. And this shit was crazy because um Beerus is looking at him like, you realize you ain't got the power no more. But at this point, Goku, like, I'm fighting to save my earth. He was like, I don't give a fuck. So this is now now Beerus is like, oh, you a real one. I like that. And so he amped it up on him. And but Goku kept amping up, and so it's like that became where Beerus realized these guys are worth keeping around. Because if I if I I don't have anybody, I can just fight. So instead of destroying the earth, y'all good. But I'm gonna come back, y'all bring, y'all make sure y'all got food for me, and when I come back, I'm gonna eat, and then we're gonna fuck shit up again. And so slowly but surely, um the um Beerus' teacher decided to take on Goku as a student and then Vegeta as a student, and then they started learning training under these deities. So, you know, they've Goku has gone through many trainers. He went through um Master Roshi. Well, actually, he went through his um his surrogate um like father, and then he went through Roshi, then he went through um King Kai, you know, and now he's with a deity. So at this point, Super is just about them exploring the the multiverse of of deities and other earths and other universes, and um the the grand high um the the grand zenies, which are the top of the total pole for for the creators of all things, they took a liking to Goku. Goku said something stupid about a tournament, and so they decided to make a tournament with all the universes. Oh, and but the thing was if your universe lose, that thing was like seven. Yeah, it's seven universes. If your universe loses, you your whole universe ceased to exist instantly. So they put their best fighters in the tournament, and that's where that's where you start to see some real mugs, like because then you realize that there's different types of people, different types of beings in other universes. They only came across Saiyans in one other universe, and most of the universes, the Saiyans were destroyed for whatever reason. Oh wow! So shit was good. Super was decent in that like because it was it wasn't about somebody trying to take over. Well, it was it was one person that tried, he didn't want to take over, but he wanted to kill all humans. But that was like a mid-story arc, right?

SPEAKER_02 10:51

And it was a good story arc, but yeah, so anyway, ladies and gentlemen, gentlemen, and ladies all fly nerd and there that you are now in tune to the god power podcast, WFNG Fly Nerd Radio, God power, God power, God power, god power, or blesses, blesses, bless us, bless these guys talking about these guys, little guys, little powerful guys.

SPEAKER_00 11:21

But you know what? Who else has some powerful little guys? I mean, it's a lot of anime with little kids that are powerful, but uh yeah, next to that, these two right here, like gone and killowa, these two gone and killow are fucking this is a whole different type of fighting, yo. This was a really good show. This was a really good show. This was called Hunter Hunter or Hunter X Hunter, depending on who you are.

SPEAKER_02 11:44

You mentioned that a lot.

SPEAKER_00 11:45

I uh few episodes, yeah. I show it it it's it's it starts it starts simple and slow, but similarly, these guys have like well, particularly Gone. Gone has to learn how to fight and learn how to tap into his powers. Okay, okay and they all they're all training to be a part of the hunter, um, to be to be licensed hunters. Okay, and so but killawa was was born into a ninja assassin clan, so he a killer from jump, and people don't be knowing they be like, you little kid, oh you look like you cute little kid, and then he like done done.

SPEAKER_02 12:23

Ninja vanish. Yeah, he be fucking he be fucking people up. That reminds me then of oh go ahead. No, go ahead. No, you go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 12:32

I was saying he's just ultra violent. He's he's he's he has he has an expected attitude of a kid assassin. He ain't afraid of nobody, he don't flinch at nothing, and he he kind of be like he'll sit there standing still watching people battle until somebody comes close to him, and then as soon as somebody touch him, it's over. Everybody get it.

SPEAKER_02 12:52

Well, I was gonna say that kind of remind me. We could just jump into uh Devil May Cry. There you go. Yeah, okay. Perfect. That's a perfect example, actually. Devil May Cry, because that episode, like this season, too, y'all, is definitely flying certified. Um, I I had my complaints about the first season.

SPEAKER_00 13:13

Yeah, yeah. Well, hold on, tell them your complaint. What was your complaint?

SPEAKER_02 13:17

They didn't focus on enough on Dante, they didn't focus because they focused on Lady, on Lady, they focused on Lady, yeah, yeah. So I was like, I don't know, it kind of took me away from the story, but I was dedicated to it to see where it was going to go, and now I understand, understand, understood why they went that way. Because yeah, this second season was full. Dante Virgil from beginning to end, man. It was hard, yeah, dude. That shit was tough, especially like episode three. That's the one that tied me in, man. I rewatched it the other day. Which one was episode three? When they kick off when they little, when they little. Oh, when they start telling their backstory and how they were backstory, yeah. So, you know, Dante, he was born with it. He the younger brother, too. Yeah, he's the younger brother, but he was he's the aggressive one. Yeah, he was born with all the fixings, though. You know what I'm saying? Like all his skill sets and all that shit. He needed naturally, yeah, naturally as a kid, like like kind of like the Jedi, you know what I mean? Like Master Jedi at baby level, you know what I mean? So Virgil, he was a little bit, he had to work harder for his shit. He's still a spar though, you know. He could heal and everything, but he didn't have the skill set, so yeah, he just he didn't seem to have the motivation either.

SPEAKER_00 14:42

Like he seemed like more of a passive, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:45

His drive wasn't there, yeah. But at certain instances it is because they were spar and Dante, like, man, I'm bored, man. I just keep beating you and shit. Yeah, yeah. And Virgil, like, no, let's keep going, and it's like, uh, all right, man. Like, yeah, until the trauma hit him. I mean, dude, that scene, dude, with the demon fucking burning his ass up, dude, over and over again, dude.

SPEAKER_00 15:14

Yeah, yeah. Well, no, but see, the trauma started before the demons even got there because his trauma started watching how his mom treated Dante and how he was babying him. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:27

Mom would go to Dante be like, Yeah, you got that you the you would give, and then would go to him and be like, Oh, poor baby, you need some milk, you want some milk?

unknown 15:35

You need to cuddle you.

SPEAKER_00 15:37

It was like well, LeBron over here killing franchise, Dante wilding, and he over here sitting, he'd be sitting there wild at like the fuck, so yeah, yeah, mom. Like, why like so that was his first? You even saw the moment where right, didn't matter, didn't matter, but at the same time, then he see his mom.

SPEAKER_02 16:00

Well, when the demons came through, when the demons came through, and yeah, she definitely um she did the old protect one, let the other one swim or drown.

SPEAKER_00 16:12

Well, she protected the one she could, she ain't had no skills or no powers, she was just a regular chick, man. And so Dante was closer to her. Virgil was over there, so of course she grabbed Dante. Virgil was up. There was already a demon between her and and and Virgil. Virgil ain't seeing it that way, but that's what happened. And then when the demons cornered him, well, first, yeah, when the demons cornered him, that's when he he went for it.

SPEAKER_04 16:38

Yeah, he did.

SPEAKER_00 16:39

That's what I was like, okay, easy. So it's another example of his power level seem weak against Dante.

SPEAKER_02 16:44

But then when that demon came forward, yeah, it's like, well, let's see what like I ain't training for nothing here. Like, come on, that's my brother. We ain't gonna fight to the death. I could kill you, motherfuckers.

SPEAKER_00 16:56

He murked him, murked him quick too, like it was easy, but then then he saw his mom dead, and that that broke him. Yeah, that broke him. And then didn't see Dante. Right, which I imagine there's more. I mean, Dante said he ran, but I think there's more to it. And but you know, we'll see what happens in season three. We'll see. Because Dante did dip off and then just you know. Well he admitted he ran, he admitted he ran, but he said, I thought you was dead, because I thought you died before mom. You know, so it's like I don't have to go back in there and check. I already like mom was like, he gone, let's get out of here. So, you know, Virgil though, that was his trauma when that happened, watching her take Dante first, then going back and seeing her dead, then getting caught. Yeah, and that's where he's down here. So now go ahead.

SPEAKER_02 17:55

So, yeah, man. No, that's I was just reflecting on that. That feels uh traumatic, man. So yeah, so um doing so, he got blessed though with the sword with the little sparse sword. He said got blessed, hey man, fire. He got baptized by fire, he got baptized by fire a few times, bro. And then uh he got saved, and um, yeah, got blessed with the sword. It's like hey man, saved worked for hire. You know, you deal with demons, it's called Devil May Cry, so it was kind of dope. Um, what's that demon name? Magnus or something, is I forgot one the statue looking thing, yeah, yeah. Magus, yeah, magus. So he was like Virgil started crying, he was like, The devil don't cry, like, dude, it was just a lie, yeah. It's like the devil's gonna cry. He said, Well, this is gonna be the first. He was crying and shit, and um, yeah, he got him his sword, and then you know, we trained him, we trained him to be who he is, and that's where he learned his Sparta level. And um, what's that called? The Maka start with the M, the full form and stuff. That's when they go into the full demon form and with the armor and the wings and things of that nature, yeah. Um, because they're a special sparta species, you know, and their father was doing a lot of dealings with these demons and um these gods and shit. And um, when he he got vanquished, you know, he left a debt to all these other demons and gods, and um, that's where it comes with the story of Dante and Virgil, yeah, because they got split, and you know, Dante thinking dude is the enemy, and dude telling Virgil that he's not the enemy, and his father worked for him and shit like that. So it's internal story, and this is what I wanted.

SPEAKER_00 19:53

It's politics in this all-gray area, you don't know who to believe, you don't know who to trust. Then on the human side, it's the same problem. You know, you got Aurora Bos Aurora as that as that company being one problem. Then you got Dark Hold is another problem, all these different entities and factions all with their own pulling for the same thing, too, you know.

SPEAKER_02 20:13

So power, uh power, but not the god power, and that's where Dante and Virgil come in, and they go in. Like, nigga, we could tear it. Like they tear down buildings like niggas. If we was trying to kill each other, it'd be more than that.

SPEAKER_00 20:29

Yeah, it would be way as we saw later, you know what I mean? As we saw later, what it looks like when they really want to kill you.

SPEAKER_02 20:36

Like, dude, they is tough, is beautiful for the animation, for the story, for the fight scenes, for sometimes the music was kind of annoying, but I like that. See, I like that kind of music, so I was good. Like those narrative ass 007 music and shit.

SPEAKER_00 20:57

Yeah, I like that shit. Man, it was that that soundtrack was hard, like it and the soundtrack is hard for the the very first episode, yeah. That blew that very first episode blew my mind, yeah, yeah. Like it came like just they jumped right into the war sending soldiers into hell, yeah. And it's like soldiers in hell fighting these demons and getting whooped, and then the demons get just it was just crazy. I was like, yo, y'all starting like this. So if this the first episode and has to escalate from there, yeah, and it did, it did, it did, it did, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:37

It's classic anime um video game shit. You know what I'm saying? It I I played these games before.

SPEAKER_00 21:44

I let's go into that because Devil May Cry was a video game first, had multiple sequels, sequel, sequels, even uh, even a uh um Virgilair one, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:57

Virgil layer one, a remake that people didn't like and And um even lost the essence. Yeah. It's a run and gun. A crossover to Marvel versus Capcom. You know what I mean? Um, Virgil and Dante is on uh I think part two or three one or down the line, I think all of them, yeah. Part two or three down the line, they are added to this, and they are a very good fighting team if you ever play with them on that game. But um, nah, I was a fan of Devil May Cry. The same creator um ended up leaving that franchise and created um Bayonetta. That's why I'm a fan of Bayonetta.

SPEAKER_00 22:37

Another, another wild, like all out action, run and gun, non-stop fighting.

SPEAKER_02 22:42

Zany story, you know, real funky um soundtrack, you know, real anime-ish. You know, this is the world that he builds. So, yeah, with Devil May Cry, I was a fan since day one, as far as Capcom fighting games, single-player games. This was the one you play as Dante, cool as ice, eat pizza and shit, and fucking shoot his gun and use swords and shit, and you could upgrade and switch um in real time. You know, you didn't have to, it's just a switch of buttons, so you playing in combo and all this stuff going on and stuff with your hands. You switching booba boom, switch, boom ba boom, switch, boo-ba-boom, shooting, stabbing, shooting, stabbing, kick, kicking people. Yeah, yeah, tossing all types of shit, man. It's like yo, the game you could double rush, double jump, and yeah, dude, it's a exhilarating game, man. And I used to uh play that shit a lot.

SPEAKER_00 23:42

But here's a here's a fun fact, too. So you know, Dante from Devil May Cry was originally a resident evil character.

SPEAKER_02 23:49

Yeah, yeah, that is true.

SPEAKER_00 23:51

And if you really look at the overlaid original, um Devil May Cry, it started out supposed to be a guy who was infected with the um virus, but somehow mastered it so he maintained his own individuality, right? And so he had the powers of an infected of one of the um the umbrella um beast, but he was still who he was, and now put that in perspective of like him traveling through through raccoon city fighting all the different demons, quote unquote.

SPEAKER_02 24:21

You know, it'll be really dope to finally get the whole universe uh connected, you know, it it the from the demons to the zombies and shit that they have out there. Um, yeah, it is a connection. Actually, there's um if you're playing the Resident Evil Requiem, there's a DLC that they dropped, uh, and not little costume DLC, which they did drop for uh Claire, but um no, this one is for Leon. Yeah, it's called uh Leon Must Die Forever, which is the second time they've done that. The Must Dies, yeah, yeah, for real. Yeah, there was another character.

SPEAKER_00 25:05

Was it Chris? I can't remember now. It was another character that did it. That was this, I think it was around Resident Evil 2 or 3. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_02 25:13

I don't remember that, but um, I was a Resident Evil fan, so I don't know. But um, anyway, go ahead. The game plays is a single player, you know. You play as Leon and then you play like this ultimate gambit game, you know. So you run around, you recognize some of the levels and stuff like that, but it's so super amped up. The zombies are tougher to beat, you know, you got time limit and you got certain weapons that you could use, but you can't upgrade Leon as a character. So it's certain upgrades you can get, like let's say you could kick someone and they turn into flames, you get the flaming kick and shit. You know, you get quicker ammunition, ammun ammunition, excuse me, stronger ammunition, you know, better upgrades for your weapons and stuff like that. It's pretty dope and pretty really quick and crafty how they created it. So, um, no, check that out. It's really dope if you haven't played Resident Evil Requiem. It's definitely a uh Flyner certified game. They dropping the DLCs and more DLCs are to come down the line, more story-level uh DLCs as well. So, you know, give the bang for your buck in regards to that. So um anime to motherfucking video games, everything's been killing too.

SPEAKER_00 26:30

I mean, it's been it's been a hell of a run right now, and yeah, you know, people often forget when we think about video game movies. Everybody go back to that first Super Mario with John Ludizamo and all that. But that's a different time, man. Nah, you know, and and truthfully, nah, like it's some it's it's it's interesting when you see we had we had a dope run with Castlevania, yes, and that's it was that was peak.

SPEAKER_02 26:56

Yeah, that was peak, definitely was was two different stories too, because season one is a different story, different Belmont story than the season two and three, and shit. So, and that's how I feel with Devil May Cry now.

SPEAKER_00 27:09

Devil May Cry has reached that level because that's why I was like, Come on, because you can go off on on Virgil or Dante and tell the story, yeah, and tell the story now, and lady and lady really get into it.

SPEAKER_02 27:20

Isn't there don't they have a sister? I thought they had a sister or something, uh with Lady or something, but maybe they you well, you mean a demon? If they did, they don't know Marvel versus Capcom. There was this chick with the big demon sword that dude had in uh season three, and I thought he or she was a sister along the I mean it's possible sister of Dante.

SPEAKER_00 27:47

It's possible, but I I mean the the thing of it maybe further down the line it wouldn't be from the same mom, that's the key.

SPEAKER_02 27:54

Okay, right, apparently, right, right, right, right, right. Apparently, he liked to dip off on earth and play. Yeah, you know ultra might ultra night movies, you know what I mean? Maybe was a rolling punch.

SPEAKER_00 28:09

A punch, rolling punch, but yeah. Um, I know you've been watching, I know you finished the boys. I I let me just go in and say this before you get going. Um multiple times throughout this series, the boys let me down and I got bored because it was just redundant and like okay, uh jokes and the tropes and the different jokes for different tropes and all that. So right. I was I was I so this last season, I was done, I was bored. I I really don't like the way certain characters changed in the story, and just so I was like, they lost me with so many different things, and then certain characters stayed lame after all the shit that they seen, and I'm like, how you still like that after all that you've seen? You should be ready to crush heads, right? So certain character development didn't develop well enough for me, and it kind of stayed it kind of landed flat, so I didn't finish, so you finished the whole show, so you can have Edit tell everybody about it, but I yeah, um hey, you brought that shit up.

SPEAKER_02 29:12

Uh yeah, man. Uh yeah, I watched it. I watched it. Um, I watched it, I wanted to finish it because I started it, and you know, I wanted to see the ending of it. You know what I mean? Like at first, the boys was dope, you know what I mean? I like the first two seasons, and then I think it came came to like maybe the third, it started to um starting to change it. Started to get a little like, all right, all right. Yeah, just too much outlandishness, crazy shit that I don't want to see to uh just storylines just getting repetitive, like you said. So I felt like this a minute ago, you know what I mean, with the boys. So but I was watching it just to see how how it's gonna end. So, yes, like you said, uh what season is that? Five, season four, five, five. So, yeah, around season three, season four, I didn't like it. So, season five, we're here. Um, it was like it started off the highest peak. I would say actually the highest peak of it all was when um Homelander killed Hrain. That was the first episode. Um that was the highest peak. That was the first episode. That was the first episode. Holy shit. That was the first episode. I might not know that. Everything got redundant. I didn't finish Gen Z or Gen V or whatever. No, I didn't like that either. I didn't like that show. I was finished the first season. I don't remember it.

SPEAKER_00 30:45

Oh, there's more than one season of that.

SPEAKER_02 30:47

They did two seasons. I never finished the first season season because they said they focused too much on the um making this connect with uh the boys ending season, so um, it's not too much heaviness going on there, and I I I couldn't get into it. I didn't like the characters, and enough was enough, man. I'm I'm tired of seeing this weird shit.

SPEAKER_04 31:09

I get to the point, right?

SPEAKER_00 31:11

Well, that's the thing, that's what made it. They they became almost like a joke of themselves. They you they were supposed to be a mockery or uh, you know, of other things or meta, but then they became too in the pocket of their own. Exactly, you know, to be honest, it was too many penis jokes. Yeah, that was definitely it was like it was just that was constantly like okay, we get it, you know.

SPEAKER_02 31:35

Like, that's what got you some weird penis jokes and shit. It's like, dude, all right, man. You know, I mean, very distracting. Oh shit. So, um, not only that, it's just the characters they're still boring to do. They were boring, yeah. They were boring, they didn't get to the point, they didn't get to the point. They was really wishy-washy from the villains. I can see they're stupid. All right, I get that. Wait, but who's the villain? It's just like repetitive stupidness around the board and shit. Like the heroes became repetitive doing the same thing over and over again, having plans. They always fumbled the plan. Someone fumbled the ball on both plates on both ends, and look like two unsuccessful bad news bears crews of superheroes trying to do the same thing, which is just stop homelander, you know.

SPEAKER_00 32:25

I mean, stop everybody wanted to do that, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:28

But everybody's opportunities to do this in season five, and they always drop the ball on that shit, you know. I mean, like Butcher, he talked to his son. Hey man, you be the one that unleashed the virus on him, he'll never know it's you. Oh man, I don't even do that shit.

SPEAKER_03 32:48

Right after that, the son goes and meet homelander did it and got beat to death or whatever.

SPEAKER_02 32:53

Yeah, could it could have, yeah. Instead of getting beat to death, he could have just went along with the playing poof poo poof.

SPEAKER_00 32:59

And yeah, and that's what I mean. I don't know if the writing and see, I don't blame the actors were doing what they were told.

SPEAKER_02 33:06

I don't know. That's a different conversation when it comes to the actors and the set. Um, after watching their social media, and then I follow Laz Alonzo and some of the um, you know, um actors on there and shit. Hey, they put in their job, they did their job, they did their work, you know. So it's not on them. I respect them, I respect all the casting crew. Shout out to them, you know.

SPEAKER_00 33:28

I mean, because y'all did that for five seasons, and you and they work hard, it's not then it goes into the the editing room, right? You know, and how they how they how they put scenes in order or out of order, or how they decide to make put all the flat scenes in. It's like I I can't co-sign it. I I couldn't, that's why I didn't finish it.

SPEAKER_02 33:50

Nah, so that's what it was, and then soldier boy he showed up. And which soldier boy became he was the highlight of the show, yeah, but then he came flippy floppy, man. He kept just one minute he a badass, the next minute he don't want to do nothing. Yeah, it's like, dude, all right, enough is enough, man. To a point where that's how Homelander got his uh superpower and shit. They found the compound V, the original compound V. And um, yeah, Soldier Boy just handed it to him. Oh, this is what Claudio wants, and he gave it to him and he shook it. And everyone watching it was like no one said no, nobody like threw a shield, uh, like theme or anything at his hand. He just injected and become super um thing. So then it goes to an angle of him, and this was in the comic book. Um, Homelander wants to be God, he thinks he's God, and and now he's using the fear tactic to scare the world into believing that he's God. So um he had the preacher dude, um, which was very powerful, but very weird. But that's the boys. I get it, I get it. Once again, it should have came a lot sooner, but go ahead. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So he he was doing all of this and um, you know, trying to get people excited, and then it came to a tyrant thing where it's like, look, uh, y'all either gonna believe in me, y'all gonna die.

SPEAKER_00 35:12

I mean, that sounds like the biblical deity to me.

SPEAKER_03 35:15

Yeah, yeah, it's where we at. This is where we at.

SPEAKER_02 35:19

So a lot of reflections of politics and stuff was to a point where the um creative director was getting annoyed because yeah, the White House would put out memes of this dude with the Pope and doing this angelic shit and thinking that he's so-called God as well. And it's like, damn, dude, we doing this shit off parody, you doing this shit in real life, like the fuck the parallels of it all is crazy. So if you like the boys for that, it's still have his um, you know, his his parodies and his reflection on on current events and stuff like that. So if you look at it in that type of room, it got it. But just as far as like story, characters was okay. Kamiko learning how to talk. I didn't want to I didn't like that either.

SPEAKER_00 36:04

That's what also killed it. I was gonna say characters went weird ways, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:08

And then she stopped talking again, and really, yeah, yeah, it just got crazy. So, um, not too many.

SPEAKER_00 36:15

There's only one season in that one season, she started talking and stopped.

SPEAKER_02 36:20

Yeah, yeah, see, because when she started talking, I didn't.

SPEAKER_00 36:23

I was like, I don't want to hear her talk.

SPEAKER_02 36:24

Yeah, I don't want to hear her talk because then it was like it just kill it, yeah. Because that was the character.

SPEAKER_00 36:30

We watched four seasons of that, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:32

And then you just start talking and shit. It's like uh for no reason, it was nothing even happening, and she ain't no special thing, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:40

She ain't saying it was like, Oh man, all right, like when you was at least right. At least if you're gonna start talking, it's because it's something you really need to say. Like, we need to get off ass and just kill this dude, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. She ain't say that, she said goofy.

SPEAKER_01 36:54

Hey, look at some ice cream.

SPEAKER_00 36:56

Like, what? Yeah, that was that was all I was off on that.

SPEAKER_02 36:59

That was there's a lot of time wasted in this um series. Uh Huey, Starlight, yeah, it was okay.

SPEAKER_00 37:07

I was over that, but that was that got weird. It was like y'all both was lame to begin with, and y'all lame afterwards. And that's what I was like, y'all ain't learned in this entire four seasons of character development. Y'all ended up in the same lame spot, uh, being lames. Yeah, yeah. It was like, like, what was the growth?

SPEAKER_02 37:25

What was the point of all of it? The coolest was Mother Milk. I thought he was gonna die like he did in the comics, but he's ended up surviving, and the actor played him well. Man, I like Ron's. Uh, I didn't like the visible change of him.

SPEAKER_00 37:39

I didn't like the yeah, that was that was that was that because I didn't even recognize him at first when he I think season three. Yeah, that was kind of weird too. But here's a question for you do you think that they missed a perfect opportunity to take the fact that Homelander loves to drink milk, and this nigga's name is Mother's Milk.

SPEAKER_02 37:59

Yeah, they shot and that never happened. I I didn't know why that was like I didn't even know that I knew the comic connection, but I was waiting for that one. Yes, that was one of the moments I was waiting on. It's like that connection, so this shit seemed rushed, it seemed put together, seemed like, yeah, yeah, I was waiting for a fight, so here it is. And yeah, it was a fight in the White House with uh Butcher and fucking uh Homelander and shit. And same old, same old. It's nothing like you know how a fight scene of X-Men, like remember X-Men, uh X-Men 2 when motherfucking Nightcrawler went to the White House, like you know that scene, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:46

Oh scene, yeah, asking for a bit much, yeah. That's I mean, but let's be honest, was there ever an actual good fight scene in the boys?

SPEAKER_02 38:57

Nah, because none of them know how to fight, none of them is trained killers, none of them are fighters at all, so no, it's not. Um, this was never climax. I'm saying climax in general, yeah. You know, if you're watching this from season one and down to season five, it was just okay. Um, the ending was just okay, they wrapped everything up. Um, I did like the butcher um departure on it. Um, he ended up leaving too. Spoilers by the way, but I don't give a fuck if you haven't read the comic book.

SPEAKER_00 39:28

Okay, but um, yeah. I think the comic book did it much better, but I also think that this type of storytelling is built for the medium of comics, and I don't think that everything in comic form translates well into visual, into into film and live action for once a while.

SPEAKER_02 39:44

For once a while, I could see this was a one-off or something like a movie, maybe, or some quick like a quicker seasons, you know, like kick ass, you know, kick ass is um just a one-off. It was a movie, it didn't lead to anything, didn't connect to anything, they wasn't trying to build a universe, which they could have. Um, I think Mark Millard did give it a shot to try to build his universes, but yeah, just like what you said, because what's that show that got canceled? Um which one on Netflix, it was by Mark Millard.

SPEAKER_00 40:16

Oh, you're talking about yeah, I know you're talking about um yeah, yeah. Um, which was another show that was about superheroes, but it wasn't about fighting as much as it was about drama, it was drama, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 40:27

It's more soap opera, right? Yeah, so that didn't work well, and it's like what you said, certain things cannot be translated well, and I think all comic books can be translated, it's just how you do it, like you know, like something killing the children. That's not your typical superhero uniform suit wearing ordeal, you know. I mean, the heroes is different, the organization is different, the monsters, the whole premise is different, you know. I think that'll be good for film. Um, there's few other um books from Boom that'd be good for film.

SPEAKER_00 41:02

I mean, everything image could be a film, yeah, or a series, image and boom could do anything. All the indie it's in the indie spaces, a lot of those characters and a lot of those stories would go well.

SPEAKER_04 41:13

But the indie nah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 41:16

But the problem was was that the boys was over the top, and and the over-the-topness is kind of falling flat in live action. You can draw over the top, and it's like again, it's the coolness of the visuals, like on anime. It's cool to watch some crazy colors fly across the screen in anime, but don't do it in real life and think I'm gonna be like, Oh, it's colors, you know. Like, you got to find a better way to translate power skills and the way things look because animation is different, comic books are different. Like, again, the reason why capes exist in comic books is because they were still pictures and you had to demonstrate motion, motion, yes. But in live action, we put in comic books just I mean the cape, just because they're in the comic books, and which is why Marvel works because Marvel doesn't have a lot of caped heroes, yeah. They don't, they don't because they didn't follow that, they found new ways to do motion.

SPEAKER_02 42:08

Cape is a specific reason why it's there. Dr. Strange Cape is alive, it's a specific reason why it's there, you know. I mean, his is a cloak, it's not like yeah, yeah, it's a cloak, cloak, it's a cloak.

SPEAKER_00 42:21

No, actually, so like the few people like like Doom, he wears that, but that's a part of his regalia. That's part of his, yeah. That's that's yeah, that's that's his that's his steege, you know what I'm saying? But no, like I think that um when it comes to these superhero, and I mean superhero in the traditional sense, you have to really find a healthy balance, like the way the last Superman movie by um by Gun was, he had to redefine aspects of the comic book character to make it work in the film. If he didn't, it would have been like you know, all the other things that fed him.

SPEAKER_02 42:56

It would have been the same old same. Yeah, and that's the difference between um that's the difference between that, you know. Um, even with Supergirl coming out, you know, we've seen Supergirl plenty of times. Go on Netflix right now and watch Supergirl, whole series, whole, whole season, and it was a movie way back in the day, and it was a movie way back in the day.

SPEAKER_00 43:17

So now that was called actually that was called Superwoman. Really? Yeah, I think so. I don't remember. I just remember it was bad. Okay, it was during the Christopher Reeves um run.

SPEAKER_02 43:29

Oh, okay, okay, okay, gotcha. Yeah, so um, but no, now we got a new one coming where um we getting this supergirl who experienced some different shit, you know. Some trauma. Yeah, some trauma.

SPEAKER_00 43:43

She's old enough to remember the destruction of Krypton and everybody she loved.

SPEAKER_02 43:47

So now we're getting deeper into the whole storyline of things. You know, we're not focusing on the gotta adapt on the human um earth shit. She's like, nah, she's dealing with this shit. Yeah, my whole plan was destroyed. Have you dealt with that motherfucker? No. All right. You don't see my tell me how to act. Right. So you know. Me and Krypton good. She's going to mix it up with that damn dog. So uh she's gonna mix it up with Lobo. You know what I'm saying? And we don't know the villain yet. You know, we don't know what this is gonna lead to. They said this leading to uh man of tomorrow. So hopefully the indication of Brainiac should should show up, you know, because he's gonna be the lead villain of the next Superman. And um, yeah, it's where we at.

SPEAKER_00 44:33

So I saw um in the theaters, I went and saw Is God Is.

SPEAKER_02 44:39

Okay, let's get into that. Yeah, is God Is now who who's the director and writer? Is this black cinema?

SPEAKER_00 44:46

Is this a black film? I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't want to say it is without um without going into that, but that is a good question. Okay, the director of Is God Is Alicia Harris in her featured directorial debut. Check that out, and I'm pretty sure by that name, we know who she is. So this this movie is in the same um revenge um category as um Spoonful of Chocolate, and both of them from the revenge perspective deal with a very difficult um traumatizing um event that happened. You know, both movies address a um a problem in our society, one focusing more in the in racism and oppression, and the other one in um assault and abuse, um toxic relationships. Is God is is in the toxic relationship space. And it's still male toxic toxicity as well. Um absolutely it's it's male, it's male, it's it's masculine toxicity, um, as they say, patriarchal um oppression. Right. But at the same time, it's a um all it's it's the the stars of it are female. The stars of it are two women, they're twins, and their mother um was abused, or as the trailer shows, was set on fire by their father. We don't know in that instance how the two girls get burnt up. She's like we assume that the fire just because it was a um chemical fire, he poured something on her and then lit it. We assume that maybe you know, splash or something, but at a particular point in the story, without giving too much away, the father says, No, she grabbed you and wouldn't let you go. And that's how y'all got burned because she was reaching out, grabbing, which is possible. Oh, yeah, that's possible. Yeah, you know, you in pain and you're trying to grab it. You grabbing and then trying to have you know all these things. So, long story short, the way it unfolds, all the characters in this are colorful, like every character that shows up in the film, just like it's showing the trailer, it's a very colorful and a very like they they draw you into their performance immediately, and everybody in it are actors. These aren't like these are actors, so um this director was blessed with an uh awesome cast, um, culminating with Sterling K. Brown, who who in the in the time that he was in it, he was very much a kill Bill S character. Um, in the sense of like he was very much like Bill. He was um he was uh he was abusive, um, he was very self-absorbed, narcissistic, etc. etc. etc. etc. Manipulative. Um, and when you meet him, similar to Bill in Kill Bill, he's very, you know, you're not sure if you if if you want to be mad at him or not for what he did. He's he'll convince you otherwise. It was weird. That was gonna say this movie is weird. Yeah, it's he's a great he he killed it because the the the emotional range that he brought alone, and we're not even getting to the emotional range of everybody else, because I'm just saying Sterling because he was the villain, he was the antagonist of the story, and you know, and and the story, no matter how good the protagonist is as an act, actor, actress, no matter how good the performances and the dialogue is. If you get to the villain and the villain is weak, a la you know, name name your average movie with a weak villain. Um, that's what or Black Adam. You know what I'm saying? Weak ass villain, nobody cares. There you go. So you couldn't be bigger than the rock anyway. So yeah, he wasn't going, so he had to he had to make you fall flat. But no, like because Sterling K. Brown is the villain brought such a performance. That that that balanced out the performances of everybody else, and so there's layers to it. There's the first wife and the kids, the twins, then there's the second girlfriend and her kids, then there's the third wife and their kids, and it's like it's this whole ensemble of people all surrounding that this what who they call God, which is their mother, Vivica Fox, told them look, I'm on my deathbed. Look, we never see this. Is this is classic Quentin Tarantino shit, like with the briefcase, and like they they they they she's in bed, and we know she was burnt up years back. They they these these kids are grown now. They pull back the covers. We don't see, but we just see everybody's face.

SPEAKER_02 49:28

Oh, so we never see that.

SPEAKER_00 49:30

We never see how bad it was, but it was bad enough where everybody was like like people's borderline about to throw up in the room. So we know from the and again, this is this is good cinema. You don't have to show everything sometimes.

SPEAKER_02 49:44

Conjecture context never people got twisted. They think you know, you see something like the um the terrifier and shit, and he's showing everything, everything. I don't need to see the brains oozing out the the dumb, the dumb are mostly intrigued by the drums. Yeah, it's like I don't need to see all that detail, but you give me that because that um part is in Riza's one spoon of chocolate, too. So this is these are all filmmaking, and I like that because that's what makes good films to me. Absolutely. You know, when they take these little tropes and ideas and flip it, you know. So some of that technique was shot in one shot of um one spoon of chocolate, yeah. Spoonful of chocolate as well. And um, he used the briefcase, you know what I mean? He showed, you know, the gold, the good, the the the something in there, yeah. Yeah, and we we actually me and Ty had shot a video with Vic Spencer, and um, we used that concept. He had a uh Nike box, and every time he opened it, opened it, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 50:49

You know, and so right, yeah, I remember that one. Like, that's where we get into the conversation about the editors. So, like, when I write, a lot of my writing style is rooted in the fact that the best way to capture the audience is to leave space for their imagination. You have to leave space for them to cut to connect and conjure their own bridge between one thing, one idea, and another. And when they do that, that's what generates the dialogue, the conversation between the film and the person watching, and that also creates the interest because now they're invested.

SPEAKER_02 51:22

But if you give them nothing, no space for them to have their own thoughts and ideas embedded in this concept, which that could be a good thing or bad thing, because now become oversaturated with with uh either fluff or let's say like John Wick, when you just go all out on the action scene, right? Versus so something more subtle.

SPEAKER_00 51:45

Well, no, so so let's use let's use let's use John Wick um as an example, and then we'll circle back to the movie that the move the two movies we're talking about, which is Spoonful of Chocolate and Um Is God Is. So in John Wick, one of the things that they do with where the space is created is in John Wick's silence. John Wick's silence allows for the person watching to infer and put their own thoughts of what he's thinking or what he feels or what his what his motives are at a particular moment. He doesn't say it, we just infer it from emotions and from expressions on his face, face, face or like or as you like to say from the way his body his body language he's acting with his body and with everything but his he's not telling you anything, yeah, yeah. And when he does say something in classic um Keanu fashion, it's one or two words, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 52:38

Yeah, yeah. I'm pissed off, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 52:43

You know, that's Keanu's that's his acting method, which is a I love it because in all of his movies, that's and and then you know who was doing that way back, Stallone. I mean, um, not Stallone, but um Schwarzenegger was doing that way back. Oh, yeah, Schwarzenegger, particularly because he didn't speak English well, right? So they didn't allow him to say a lot. Terminator, he didn't say hardly any words. I'll be back. Well, yes, he said that he said I'll be back. You mean you're close, and um, and that's and think about movies like earlier than that. Um, I'm looking about commando. Have you seen her? Shut up, have you seen her? Yes or no? That's commando, right? So you remember that movie, right? Commando, yes, I remember a lot of that was body acting, yeah. Because he because he's physically, he's you know, but the and that's why people remember his lines, that's why people remember King Aru's lines. It's so few, so it's like it makes what did Jisoo say, make it brief, son, half long twice strong. If you say less, comiko, when you finally speak, it should matter, yeah. See, you see what I'm saying? So, yeah, you got to create that, you got to create space for the viewer to invest their own imprint into the into the and that creates a personal connection to what they're watching, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 54:03

So, in both of those movies, home in subconsciously with them because they had a full engagement, and that's filmmaking, that's filmmaking one-on-one, you know.

SPEAKER_00 54:13

Except in Hollywood is not what happened, so uh did your balls drop off, but no, uh, like but no, but see the beauty that's why I like Is God is because Is God is plays out like a very like a very it play out like it's some shit that me and you and the crew put together. It play out like something we did, it's not the big dramatic fanfare, it's very low budget, not low budget in terms of the value because the quality of the of the production is great, it's low budget in the sense there are no explosions. Okay, right, there are no guns, there are no bullets. Oh, yeah, this is a more brutal way of killing. I heard a lot of killing in here, but yeah, this is this is this is a well, I won't say a lot because there aren't a lot of characters in it. It's it's a they have a very specific mission. But they get busy for when they get busy, when they get busy, they get busy, and it's fun, it's fun until it's not, which is why this movie teeter totters in the uncomfortability, the same as Spoonful of Chocolate.

SPEAKER_02 55:19

Spoonful of chocolate.

SPEAKER_00 55:20

It's very uncomfortable.

SPEAKER_02 55:22

So when it gets to that though, and and that's why I'm saying with black cinema now, because now we're reaching a point of I I have nothing against black exploitation films of the 70s. Like, I have nothing no, that was a that was a whole industry into itself. I mean, yeah, so that's what I'm saying. So now we at a point where we could not revitalize that, but I mean that whole movement of like total black cinema that's coming out now. Because even with I Love Boosters, yeah. Shout out to um Boots Riley. Did you see that?

SPEAKER_00 55:57

I have not. I'm going to actually going to see that this weekend.

SPEAKER_02 56:00

Okay, cool. Well, I haven't seen it either. So um we'll talk about that next time. But um, I feel like with the rise of black cinema with Riza in in um this guy is God is movie, it's a certain style that we're doing that other own. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's like some flavor to it, it's like you know, some colors, it's some it's some lenses that's being differently shaped, even with sinners, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04 56:27

Like iolized, yeah, these or as they say, self-style wisdom.

SPEAKER_02 56:32

Exactly, man. So we we the god, it's the god power, you know what I mean? That's that's that's today's word, god power, god power, you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_00 56:41

You know, and we we're connected to all things. So when like people don't think about like when they say rhythm and they talk about black people have rhythm, when you understand that rhythm is frequency, and frequency is electromagnetic, we're talking about the full electromagnetic frequency includes color, sound, taste, touch, and smell, it's all of that, which we all experience through our melanin, yeah, through our skin. So the grandiose conversation can be reduced to the simplicity of who we are as a people, and understand that when we tap into ourselves and we produce for ourselves, by ourselves, of ourselves, it's gonna be colorful, it's gonna be vibrant, it's gonna be abstract, it's gonna be nuanced, and it's gonna be something no one else will be able to duplicate, right? Which is great, by the way. It's wholly great. And I mean, this also leads to the conversation that that we um had offline, and I put on Facebook and had a good conversation. Um, shout out to our four Richards, um, shout out to a few of the black content creators that tapped in on that conversation.

SPEAKER_02 57:47

And basically, we we're talking about the DC I don't know. She tapped in. I gotta go back and look at that.

SPEAKER_00 57:53

Yeah, she um she had um threw her two cents in on it, so she always has a great perspective. Okay, all right. I mean, she's been doing it for over 20 years, if I'm not mistaken.

SPEAKER_02 58:01

Yeah, she has, she worked with them a lot, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 58:03

So she has similar to other people that we know in the camp that have um insider experiences and the the black woman's perspective of that of that industry. So basically, we got a um a black YouTuber. Um, shout out to him. He's a um in our con in our con in our colloquial, he's a fly nerd. And so he started a campaign about Learn without fears of fly nerd. Yeah. In our colloquial, yes. Don't do it, don't do it, don't do it, Megatron. Leave him be. No, for real, he's dope. He is a he is a strong supporter of black.

SPEAKER_03 58:48

Y'all look at me. I got question marks over the head.

SPEAKER_02 58:51

I have a whole different perspective, but go ahead. Why? You tell me, tell me why, dude.

SPEAKER_00 58:57

I'm here for unity, equality. I'm here of brotherly love. I love everybody. Everybody come on in today. Today is not today is not the day for Star Scream.

SPEAKER_03 59:11

I see, I see. I'm so thundercracker.

SPEAKER_00 59:19

I'm more like Cyclonus.

SPEAKER_02 59:21

Yeah, you're Cyclonists, yeah. Do we have to fight the nigga?

SPEAKER_00 59:25

Galvatron, do we have to fight them today? Shouldn't we be focusing on something else? All right, so that notwithstanding, that notwithstanding, stretch that from the record. That notwithstanding, he did the campaign DC so white, hashtag DC so white.

SPEAKER_02 59:45

And his his can't his campaign is to boycott DC because over the last whatever number of days there has not been 130 days, it's been three years since there haven't been a lead uh black um superhero led comic book run, particularly not just okay. And I'll continue on.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:06

So, with that being said, um, you know, it got enough traction where it made it into the press. So that so now there's articles about it. And for me, what got me into the conversation was not what he wants to do about. We'll get into my sentiments about the DC concept of a DC boycott and all that. Well, that's secondary. What drew me into it specifically was the white male demographic of comic book readers and their opinion on the matter. That is what drew me into it. And so I'm gonna I'm gonna set this up with a story. So this is years before me and Gliff got to Rizza to do the comic book that we did, Samurai and a Hoodie. Well, bum bum. Well uh we were pitching another comic book series that I had created um years back, and so this so we're talking somewhere between 2010 and 2015. We went to a particular uh publisher, white white guy, had a meeting and everything with him, sat down at the table. We're telling him the story, he's interested, he loves it. Cliff pulls out the pages of the illustrations for the um for the panel for each page. He's looking at it. Main character is black. That's it. There was a white guy, a black guy, and a Japanese guy. Almost like a joke. These were the three main characters.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:45

Walked in the bar together.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:47

Yeah, right. Literally walked into a bar together. That's a part of the script and part of some of the panels. But it was a white guy, black guy, and a Japanese guy. Black guy was the main main character. Of course, he's drawing black guy. Right. He he looked through the he was so now I've I've I've pitched the story. We made it to the meeting, talking through the story some more. He's loving it. He's loving how the direction, he's looking at all the shit I wrote, loving it. Saw the panels, sat there for a few minutes quiet, just looking through them and then looking back, and then he would pause on certain pages and kind of look whenever it was the black character. You know what this motherfucker said? I just don't think that people want to read about black characters. Okay, so I'm like, what do you mean? You know, he was like, Well, you know, you this is a black comic book. I said it's a fucking black character, one fucking black character. Mind you, this was a sci-fi story, so there was all types of aliens and shit in it. No problems with that, no problem with the with the anything else but the black character. I just elite black character. I just don't think that that will serve. All right, okay, okay, all right, all right. So you understand what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:01

I understand what you're saying, I understand the strength of this, but I have a total different perspective of what's the perspective of what? Of the comic book. First of all, like you said earlier, both of us heard um from both companies. Look, there's shady shit that goes on in every field of entertainment business, from comic books on down to acting to Hollywood and all that shit, the shit that you hear, all that shit, some most majority of it is true. You know what I mean? I heard very racist, misogynist shit that happened on both sides of the fence of the comic book game. When you say both sides, you mean DC and Marvel. Is that what you're talking about? Okay, yes, sir. So um, when it comes to to all right, I use this for example, X-Men. X-Men's supposed to be an all-black, like Black Panther, like black skinned, like black mutant, like thing. But since there was fear that the book wouldn't sell, they had to create the characters what they created. But um then blue and all the other colors, yeah. Blue, and you know, and even with Scott Summer, the Summer family on them white, like all that shit was by choice because they was, and this is back in the 70s, whenever the shit was 60s, 70s, when they created this shit, there was fear of motherfucking um the book not selling. They taking big risks with Black Panther, you know what I mean? They taking big risks. So that whole model of selling in books and things that nature, who buy who buy these books? So let's get into that whole conversation when it was brought to DC. Now, maybe their reaction was a little bit um brushing off motherfuckers, but they was like, Yeah, yo, who buy these books? You want us to like because this I thought this started in Black History Month when they was like, Hey, could y'all recover or redo some of the milestone books? And and DC was like, Well, we're doing this absolute shit over here. Um, yeah, because well, they were supposed to do the milestone.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:14

Are they gonna sell?

SPEAKER_00 1:05:16

They pulled the milestone, they pulled it, they were gonna do it, and they pulled the plug on the print on the plan.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:21

Okay, yeah, and it was probably fear of sales, or what was going on? Because I mean a lot of it's two sides. A lot of people say this shit, but I want to know where you where y'all dollars are spent at when it comes to uh supporting books in general. Well, that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:37

It's it's two sides. So the the the one side is the fear, like from a business model, you know, the the the comic book industry is dominantly white male, and that is now I was going to get into that. Yes, so that's that's number one. So that is it's from a business model. I understand because I'm going, I'm but I'm going to sell to my audience, yes, but if I'm selling a Million fucking Batmans. How does it hurt to have this, you know, this lost leader over here that still caters to another demographic that's missing?

SPEAKER_02 1:06:08

So ideally, business-wise, it doesn't hurt. And you should be doing more. Now, if you think about Marvel, they got books, Storm, they got Miles, they got um a lot of Black Lee led books, they got Black Panther still popping, they got Blade, you know what I mean? You know, they got a lot of books. You know, Bishop had his own series, you know, who is is a lot of books that black iron, um, no, Luke Cage and shit. You know what I mean? Like these books are popping, you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:36

And um, do by do people buy them? Do people well that's that's the other question. Now, here's here's now here's the caveat to that. For me personally, I don't care what anybody does with their private business. I don't care. So DC doesn't want to make or promote a particular black character. I mean, it ain't that many black characters in DC to begin with.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:00

Let's just no, it's not, it's not so that's I agree with that.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:03

So if you're coming to DC, you're coming because of Batman, Wonder Woman, or Superman. Green Lantern Tertiary Flash down the line. But at the top of the totem pole, it's a it's a holy trinity of white of white folk. Right. I'm not trying to go in a space and dictate the terms of what they should or shouldn't do. I don't want to, I don't care. I, on the other hand, would rather focus on the many, many, many black creators that exist in elsewhere, that are producing content elsewhere, that are making comic books, that are doing anime, that are doing animations, that are doing on like little short films on YouTube. Are y'all talking about bitter root? Let's get into that.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:46

Are y'all talking about this? See, y'all talking about Sanford Green, bro. Like, y'all give them any props. Sanford Green did a whole comic book with Nas and Ghostface and all that shit. These are black books for us, bro. Are y'all are y'all are y'all talking about this? That's what I'm talking about. There's black creatives and shit that you expect in blood from a turnip if you're gonna go against DC and expect them to put out some motherfucking black superhero they haven't done in motherfucking 50 motherfucking years, bro. Like it's been longer than that. You just said down the line is Wonder Woman, Superman, Batman nigga. Now, anything under variation of that, that's what's gonna sell that shit. This is crack, this crack business. You know what I mean? If the shit ain't broke, they gonna fix it. Now, yes, you could include static shock and all of that. I heard they're gonna put him in the Justice League, and they're still cyborg and shit like that. Visually, you still see lanterns, and you got John, you got John Stewart, John. You know, he he's a lead. Look, man, y'all expecting too much from anything. If they did have all these black heroes, what about the black artists and the black creators? Who's gonna write these stories for these black comic books? Do you want someone else to be writing these stories and shit like that just because you're saying you want a black character in front of on your stand?

SPEAKER_00 1:09:11

Like going back to what we were just talking about, where how these black creators are doing these films that are that are different, yeah, different like it's a difference, different and you read these black books, they're different.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:23

Bitterroot is a 70s sci-fi, except it's black, and it got all the integrations of the 70s and the times in there, even with the hokey corny sci-fi stuff, all of that's related with aliens and and still dealing with racism and how this team is actually above all that shit, and they expect the racism, and they still gotta deal with all this shit in order to conquer the fucking problem, which is these aliens and why they keep abducting and taking over our bodies and shit. So, no, there's and that's and that's David Walker.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:57

That's oh David Walker wrote that shit. Like, like Sanford and David are there and they're doing it well. I think, and I think that's the real conversation, but that's why I appreciate that whole situation. On the one hand, the white, the white, the people in the in the comments under this under this article are telling you, I don't give a fuck. There's enough black people for me, I'm happy. I don't need no more black creators. Are there black people or white people? These are the white, these are the white males under the article telling responding to this article about this this protest saying, Look, I'm good.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:34

Because I know for damn well this is not um black male dominated. It's not, and when it comes to this shit, you know, nerds is kind of like the weaklings, you know. I mean, they they kind of like you know, so that's why I said about the passive when it comes to like blurred, the term blurred and shit, because it kind of feels like token. If I kind of feel like you know, sometimes you know, the weaker will come over here and humble themselves out because you know they can't deal with the real other side of the fence and shit with popularity and and societal just pressures in general, you know. I mean, so when it comes to like this, it's real particular, you know. We cut through this shit because we we samuraize in the real world, we killers, we you know what I mean. We do our own thing, so we move in the groove on our own pace, and that's what fly nerd group is are all about, man. Um, when it comes to this culture, though, I totally understand it is really yeah, majority rise the other the other side, and that's why we fight these barriers and we do what we do to present that to y'all and and let y'all know what's going on on that side, and um, you know, dealing with shit like this because I I don't know, man. I mean, I look at the protest as a I get it, I get it, but I don't think what's the what's the end game? Like they're gonna put out what well, yeah, because I heard um protest this for 120 no one twelve hundred days, whatever he said, whatever he said.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:17

I'm not, I'm not so you said everything, like all the black creators that went on my post and replied. You're saying the same things that they said. They said we can just do ourselves, like if like there's enough black creators out there that there's no shortage of black creators, and it doesn't we don't need DC to do it. We don't need these unless you just really want your black character, see the black character with Batman. But I'm like fuck Batman anyway.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:40

You know how I feel about look, man. For one, hey man, absolute DC universe is kicking ass, man. It is. I can't I ain't stopping. I don't give a fuck what your cause is, man. This is hot, man. They just released absolute green lantern, you know. No, absolute green arrow and absolute green lantern is coming, so you're getting a John Stewart, absolute style. Just be patient, man. Man, all that shit. Y'all fighting some fight, y'all. Y'all be choosing the wrong battles, man. All this going on in the world, and you want to fight over Superman. I think I'm good, man. I'm good, dude. Like, that's a dumb nail in the head. We the flying air group, we move differently. We who put you in the black sources where the black resources at. If you don't know, now you know, all right.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:34

More you know, more and we'll and we'll and we'll continue to do that. We'll continue to do that.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:39

That's what we do, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:41

That ain't gonna stop because like we we we we didn't we we have a seat at the table because we built the table, and that's our table, yeah. That's our shit. So no one will be able to take it from us, and similarly, no one can come to us and say, Hey, um, I need more white content. Sure, go find it, have at it. I have no problem.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:03

All types of content. There's LGBTQ content, there's all types of everybody, everybody. If you got if you goth, they got a shift for that. You if you a short person, they got shit for that. Like they got shit for everybody nowadays in the comic book. You never know what you might come across. Go to a comic book store and read.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:25

How about that? It's a lot of comic books.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:26

Go to the comic book store and walk past the DC and the Marvel section and go to the indie spot and see what you can find. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 1:14:34

But what I do, but here's the here's the other here's the here's the twist. I appreciate the awareness that he's bringing to a com and like that sparks the conversation, regardless to the actual boycott. This conversation is now happening because of that. That and again, it's exposing something that sometimes we need to be reminded of that those spaces aren't for us. They may let us come in here and there, breadcrumbs, but it's not for us.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:06

I mean, I see your point, man. But motherfuckers who putting that shit out, man, real niggas.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:12

No, it ain't that, it ain't that. This this ain't this ain't the Montgomery bus.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:20

Like, look, man, I don't know. I just feel a certain way about how people getting attention and shit like that and doing things too. But it's controversial, that's why it's getting attention. I ain't against every I ain't with every protest because it's black. I ain't against every protest because it's black, you know what I mean? But you know, I I stand on what I stand on, what I fight for. You know what I mean? I see the fight. I'm I'm with it, I'm with it. But nigga, Lantern's coming out in a few months, man. Nigga, absolute batman. I ain't man, nigga, nigga. You know, if Mayfax dropped the figure right now, man, if I wanna, I'm getting it, man. Like, none stop me, my consumerism. And maybe that's a whole thing how people feel about, yeah, let's boycott Target, let's boycott Walmart, let's boycott this and that and the third, and people don't do it, let's boycott Gucci and all them other things. You know, it is what it is.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:13

But listen, like, listen, like coming from a space of like racism, people, there are a lot of racist people, there are a lot of prejudice people. I can't spend my time worrying about those people. I got too much shit to do when it if and they're not doing it directly, it's indirect, and we don't, and uh and focusing on them is never the it's like if somebody cuts you, do you focus on the knife or do you focus on addressing dressing up the wound and getting that shit taken care of before you bleed out? Yeah, I guess you know what I'm saying? We we we tend to focus on this is what victimhood does. We tend to focus on the on the oppressive, the item of oppression or the person who oppressing, and not first addressing ourselves. Like if you in the middle of the fight, could you please put out a book with us on the cover, sir? Please, like if you in the middle of the fight and somebody draw the knife, yeah, you gotta focus on the knife to defend yourself.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:09

I'm gonna this arm this motherfucker. I ain't gonna break this motherfucker and shit.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:15

Oh, could you please put down the knife, sir? Please don't stab me, please. Don't stab me, sir. Please, get the fuck out of here.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:25

You better duke up, square up, or whatever, or take the or take the stab, or take the stab.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:31

That's reality, which is also an option, yeah. Yeah, take the stab, which is which is also you know, that's a way of disarming somebody too.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:37

Take the stab, take the stab, and then take their arm, and then take their arm, break that motherfucking three.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:42

Take it with you. You got the knife and the arm, you're good to go.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:45

I bet you won't stab nobody else with his arm, right? It's options to it, man. It's but no, we we we on the progressive path. But I'm cool, man. You know, I mean, I'm cool, man. I I'm good, man. You know, I see the shit, I'll be down, but we still fly nerd. We deal with we delight, we get our own immunity, man. We delegate our own.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:10

So earlier, when I was saying, like in our colloquial, he's a fly nerd, a lot of these people don't know that there's a space for them. They still try like you know, this ignorance. Ignorance is ignorance. If you don't know what you don't know, a lot of these people don't know that there's a space, that there's a proper space for them, and they so they try to wedge themselves into spaces they don't really fit, and then you just look like you don't fit, but yeah, but but when when you don't know that there's any place else, that's better than no place, right? Yeah, yeah, that's true, and that's where, and so that's where I be trying to. I'm I'm trying to open up these spaces and let them know that's a good thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:47

Oh, I see what you're saying. I see what you're saying. I'm trying to open the door and come on in because yeah, it's a lot of people that's complaining about a lot of shit and not aware of the flying, they don't even right, they don't even know there's an alternative way to go, alternative to that because they feel like they're stuck in between, they're not blurbs, they're not this well because number one, let's just be 100%, and I'm gonna be blunt.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:07

They ain't niggas, right? Yeah, and so where they go, where they gonna go, so they don't know how to associate with that side, and they really don't know how to associate with they ain't gonna go regular white folks, them yeah, that leave them in a very awkward place because that leaves them in an awkward place, so they try to fit in where they can, they they can't get in where they fit in, so you know flying a group is here, and this is uh Ty.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:32

Um, this the moment where I'm gonna give a fly nerd shout out. Fly nerd of the month go out to Verbal Man. Give it up for verbal man, because um that dude that oh yeah, yeah, uh flying nerd group, man. He he he be putting us on shit about AI and all this shit, how much we in this system and all this shit to a point where he recently did a um AI uh picture me um as an action figure, knacrobat action figure and shit. Had the accessories, the backpack, the mic, and shit. Um, except dude look like uh mother milk from the boys and shit. He looked like Cosmo Milk. Cosmo milk. If I did a bioptic, he could he could do me, he could play me and shit. That's wild, but um, yeah, that's funny. But um nah, shout out to Verbal because he always put in work, and I always appreciate the people that represent us, man. We don't ask for this shit, you know what I mean? Like we put in this work, and it's like what you said, what we were saying earlier. We created this for everyone, we created this for y'all, but y'all gotta get involved too. It's not about just me and Ambi coming out and we just taking all the shine and all the work. Nah, nigga, you put in work if you fly in there, show and rep it. You know what I mean? Show and rep it. Shout out to Yola, shout out to Verbal, they show and rep. You know what I mean? They they support, they push, they support, they push, they support, and it's many others too. You know, um, I recently dropped that rock rock um video joint with my verse, um, with the Taiwan Dares Proof album. Shout out to Culture Power 45, man. Very good responses, man. Um, to a point, it's like, yeah, man, you know, Cosmo Galactors need to rap again, bro. That sounds about right.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:28

That sounds about right.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:29

From just the reaction of that, it's like, man, y'all miss me.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:34

Y'all miss me, man. Oh man, I I stopped because niggas was on bullshit, man. It's like I ain't got time for this shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:44

I end up being a photographer and learning how other moves of business work, and when it comes to the artists and the MC side, they treat the motherfuckers like bullshit. You know, I get paid as a photographer or else, you know what I mean? But as an artist, you artists don't really stand on that shit because these promoters and these motherfuckers making this shit was on bullshit back in the day. So now it's a different format where people create their own avenues, their own islands and shit. Um, which is why I created the fly nerd group too. You know what I mean? It could be a hub of creatives and fly motherfuckers getting together doing fly shit. You know, that's that that's the purpose of the fly nerd group. So now, since the veil has been revealed, you know what I mean? This is the movement doing this creative shit moving forward, man. So yeah, you're gonna hear some more raps. Unlimited creativity, we unlimited creativity, dude.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:42

Unlimited, it's nothing we're doing, everything, yeah. Shorts and literally, we the lord of all the worlds, we doing it all, and we navigate all the spaces because again, flyner group is for everyone. Everyone is welcome, but not everybody can come in, and that's you still gotta come correct. You gotta come correct.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:02

Correct. So if you ain't on your bean, you ain't on your shit, you like I said, put in the work. It's not about you know, I'm saying, just hanging out, taking the credibility of other motherfuckers of what they're working and doing. No, show show that you represent, show your work, no, show your work, work, show your work. Shout out to Kenny Keys, man. Show your work, man. Show your work, show your work. That's awesome. Shout out to Verbal because he's definitely showing his work. Shout out to the uh folks at uh no, everyone that's showing their work.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:33

Shout out to everyone everywhere doing their thing, showing improving. That's what it comes down to. There's proof, and for those who was at the listening session that we had, the proof is you.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:45

You show up, you show up when you show up, show up, show out. There's proof right here on the hat. So, um, yeah, man. So moving on, I want to give a shout out to Rufus and Jujilla. I'll be an idiot not to do the podcast without mentioning their album with uh producer access. 100%. Um, you know what I mean? So um, yeah, it's a dope project. It's really dope. It's really dope. Yeah, it's really dope. It's really dope when it comes to production and the rhymes and everything. You know, um, those two like Rufus do a lot of collabs.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:19

Yeah, he's he be moving. He he definitely he definitely moves right, yeah. Which is which is a good sign. I I respect a fearless.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:28

Put that on everything. It's a real Chicago album, man. From some of these hooks and just the style and everything, and the titles and all that shit. It's really Chicago album. On my soul is the leading song. Um, video shot by purple box, APJ and company. And um, yeah, it's kind of like a purple box project, I believe. Um, they're doing their movie. Yeah, yeah. So um, yeah, excellence, Jujilla, Rufus, they definitely uh doing their thing. Um, probably gonna mix it up with them soon. Flies on the wall. Stay tuned to that. Um, Vic Spencer, shout out to him. He's always dropping some heat. That dude always dropped, and indeed. Il Gordo, he dropped a uh album as well.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:18

Check out for him, and um yeah, a lot of Chicago, a lot of Chicago Chicago State, Chicagoing, that's what I'm gonna say. Yeah, Chicago State, Chicagoing, and it's a lot more coming. This year is about to be a fun Chicago year.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:33

Hey, it's the fun time now, man, because you know how it is. It's summertime and the shy, man. We got festivals, galore coming out. It may not seem like as much because the things has changed, but we do got some shit. Common will be here in June for the Taste of Chicago uh uh performance. Um Millennium Park is there.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:52

Black Milk is gonna be here.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:53

Yeah, Black Milk going. That's September, though. But um Millennium Park is gonna have a concert series. Um, I think Radius is part of one of those. Yeah, Radius is supposed to be up there. Yeah, so you know, check that out. Um, Blues Fest free, um uh Jazz Fest is free. Check out those festivals coming out this month, and um, yeah, Black Milk is gonna be here uh that's September. Um, Erica Badu, Alchemist, and De La Soul at the Ravina is gonna be here September as well. And I think bada boom, bada bing.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:29

I think there was something else, but um, yeah, there's there's more. Well, the black milk is the week after the um Ravenia Fest, right? No, that's before. Is that before that?

SPEAKER_04 1:26:40

Yeah, let me look it up.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:49

Yeah, so I'm pulling it up now. Uh Chicago is September 4th. And that's going to be uh I don't think it's location here. But black milk, black milk is Chicago September 4th. Okay. So yeah, man. Um we're on that road of greatness. That's what I'm saying. When summertime in the shy is beautiful time, man. Enjoy it while you can because uh yeah, we're we outside. There's a lot of things happening out here, and um, you know, in the midst of all that, you still want to have fun and uh do your thing. So yeah, September 10th is Erica Badu de la Soleil and the album. So the week so that they're a week apart, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:32

Yeah, I knew one was one one one. Yeah, so hey, so speaking of mainstream industry artists who are trying who are you know, Drake. Drake dropped an album. Drake dropped an album. I didn't get a chance to it, man. I listened to it. I listened to it. So Drake, Drake's album, so I listened to a lot of too busy on Rufus and Drew Gillo, by the way. No, I yeah, I was I was I had bumped, I was bumping them. Um I still bumped them, but I had to take a second and um drop take a just drop into the Drake space. And I get it. I understand it. Like, like I've told people before, like I'm not a Drake fan, but I do respect Drake music. Like there's albums by Drake that I like. We talked about that, like the views. I like that album. Um certain certain projects I like in totality, but then on other projects, it's songs that I like, particular songs. But this album is a well-rounded album, it's a little bit of something for everybody. I do well, albums, because I don't know what how this works, but um, because he got a lot of shit out, right? But he got he got the bars on there, he got the flow, like what I call just the flow. It's like like some tribe called Quest, they just spitting, you know what I'm saying? Like, no one no, like, no one ever took thought about the fact that Q tip can work the right. You put Drake in uh like you got to, you can't, you know, like we at that point where you know, like I'm of the mind these days, hip hop is hip hop, man. Like, I don't give a fuck about the industry side of shit, but if you are MC, then you respect the culture. See, the key word is respect the culture, and I think he does respect the culture, otherwise, he never would have took the battle with with with Kenny. Uh like if he didn't give a fuck, if he was just gonna be an industry cat, he could have played.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:18

Hey, someone said that Kenny shit didn't work because the whole still outside playing Drake.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:23

Listen, when I this is how I got into listening to the album because I completely forgot, but I'm everywhere I'm pulling up, and I'm pulling up to my car, and you know it's been warm outside, so nigga wiggles is down hearing it, and then on social media, all the shortties is using the Drake songs, and you know, for their little memes and for their shit, you know, they little skits, and so I'm just like, wait a minute, all right, that's a little bob. Let me go listen to this album, and it's not bad. It's it's in that same pocket of Drake shit. It's like it's it's it's balanced enough where you know the fellas that love Drake gonna continue to love Drake. The shorties that love Drake are gonna continue to love Drake, and then you know, everybody else gonna do what they do, but it's enough people for Drake to sell like he he he got no shortage of fans, like like yay. They thought they was gonna cancel Yay when they broke him down, and that didn't stop a thing. Drake ain't stopped at all, it ain't slowed Drake up at all. In fact, if you listen to the album, and maybe this was just me, but I'm literally hearing him respond, like he's responding, not in battle form, but he's responding to everything Kenny said on them songs in actual songs. He's doing West Coast Oakland songs, like they whole style, he got their whole bop. Because remember, Kenny said, you know, you would never be able to do an Oakland again. So he's doing whole Oakland anthems on this album, it's just crazy. So I was listening to this and I'm like, Wait a minute, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:52

Is he still going back and forth? Is this still no?

SPEAKER_00 1:30:55

He moved on. He just showing that he don't give a fuck. He's showing he's showing him, like, look, you said this, but look what I just did. You said that, but look what I just did. He did a song for all the things he was going, and you know, the true and the true underlying current of this is this ain't about nobody except Drake's war with universal. He's trying to go independent.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:19

That's why I believe he dropped these three albums because not only he's closing out the deal, yeah. And did you you just listen to Iceman, or did you listen to I listened to I don't know what what I listen to?

SPEAKER_00 1:31:31

Because once you start going, it's just a lot of songs, man. And at a certain point, I just stopped. I couldn't do it all, but yeah, this is I ain't that much of a fan like that.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:42

Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:43

I don't know what it's a lot of music, and he does that. That's why I say some of his albums be like, all right, man, that's a lot of albums. There's a lot of songs on this album because he does them hour and a half albums. I'm good, I don't need all that.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:56

So just to um spin back, uh Vic um Spencer album is Inspire Your Idols. Um, that dropped May 15th. And um, yeah, go ahead. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:06

Okay, listen to that. I didn't catch that one either. It did come through my feed, it did come through my feed, but I um yeah, I've been catching up, I've been trying to catch up on the music because it's so many, it's so many different things. Like I've been tapping back into my blues and shit. Yo, Gordo album is full plate, so yeah. That one they had the listening session um the week after we had ours. Yeah, and I missed it because I didn't know until uh till after.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:32

Uh this weekend, if you are out and about, it is the Roots Picnic. So um tell me how that Jay-Z show went and um how that Freemasonry, Freemasonry promotion go. The what?

SPEAKER_00 1:32:44

Huh? The Freemasonry promotion. Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:57

What shit man? Hey, what?

SPEAKER_03 1:33:00

Huh? What the fuck you talking about, nigga?

SPEAKER_00 1:33:06

But nah, that uh yeah, I was gonna go, but I'm glad I didn't go. I'd much rather be doing um the things that we are going to be doing um in that space, so I'll wait till that happens. You know, that's how that's so yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:20

This DC blackout is on. I'm just online seeing this shit. Um, yeah, I ain't going over 1200 days without a DC.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:28

I already do that, so I ain't even affected by that anyway. I'm just being 100. You know, like to me, to me, DC, like I I haven't got I'm going to read absolute Batman, and now that they got they're in multiple volumes of it, so I can start buying the trades. I'm going to buy it. Like, I like to buy like when it's a big series like that. I don't like one comic book a week. I don't like it, take too long. Let me read it in bulk. So I'm gonna get it. But outside of that, like, what's up with Energine? Transformers.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:58

So, um, right now, Transformers Transformers kind of had an interesting state, man. Like I said, the leader one, um, she became the leader of the alibi, so now she on Cybertron, and they just fighting. It's just like, yo, I'm the leader now. I look at me, look at me. I'm the captain now, and she just going ahead and just attacking niggas.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:18

It's like shockwave back and she's like, Oh, hold up, man. What's going on? Oh, whoa, where after this at?

SPEAKER_00 1:34:27

Because they all like like why who's leading this?

SPEAKER_03 1:34:31

Who set this up, son?

SPEAKER_00 1:34:34

They don't know who to negotiate with. They don't know who to negotiate with.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:40

No one to negotiate with, so yeah, everything is at a tricky state. Megatron himself uh discovered that Decepticons has a matrix of leadership themselves. He just um he discovered this with his latest tests with um what's his name? Onslaught, or no, what's that motherfucker? Not on slot. What was his name that was worshiped? Not Tarn. Maybe it was Tarn, but it's an old school dude. I thought Unicron was running the shit, but it's actually um Mac Moncantonis, Megatonis or something, like something like that. Okay um he's running the show. He got Megatron under control, Megatron served under him. He discovered that he has the um Decepticon Matrix of leadership. I don't have the name of it right now because I didn't pick up this issue. I just heard on the online, and um, yeah, now it had cocoon, he's in the cocoon state. Who Megatron? Megatron is in the cocoon state with the Matrix. He had his arm back. I think this, I think he may come back as Galvatron. Okay. I think they jump in the ship and he might come back as Galvatron or something like that, or some ultimate god level uh Megatron. Megatron. Mega God. Megatron, Mega God, because he he passed the test. He finally passed the test that they was training him on, and it was a gruesome test. You know what I mean? His standard, he'd get destroyed and bring him back to life, and he still gotta fight and do all this shit for this test. So he finally passed it, and dude blessed him, and he went to Cocoon State. So it's gonna be a lot of changing of leadership moving forward. With a leader, she's leading. Um, and then um Prime, he's him and his team is still on Earth. There's only a few cats, but it's not that many. And um who they fighting with the remaining Decepticons on on Earth as well.

SPEAKER_00 1:36:36

They're like they're on the because she because that's right, she left saying fuck that.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:40

She left because her beef was is that Prime was fighting all this shit on Earth and think left on the planet, so it's like our soldiers is falling in that down over here, and this is where the Decepticons are at. Right, why don't you come and fight for us for one time? You know what I mean? And Prime, like, well, you know, uh the Decepticons are based here too, and we gotta protect these sentient beings because they're just so weak and fragile, they're pieces of shit. It's like, oh well, so you're protecting yourself for these pieces of shit, freedom instead of all sentient beings. Oh, fuck all that shit, man. Give me this my damn matrix, he got you going crazy.

SPEAKER_00 1:37:20

Put him in his place, huh?

SPEAKER_02 1:37:21

Yeah, put them in the place, and you know, now she's running the show. Could she run the show like Optimus Prime? She she led the Alabas before out there, she was lean out there before. So, you know, Alita and Optimus Prime used to run like this, son, running um armies and battalions and destroying um the subducard. So it's an interesting take. This is Robin Hercules version of Trent. What happened to G.I. Joe? I'm they was in it. I haven't. Well, they still got they still got uh the version where Duke he finally met Optimus Prime. Well, he met Orion. Orion Pax. Orion Pax and uh Helm News. Hey, so where hey, what who would who do you? You look familiar though. You look like someone I really look up to, man. But um, look, if you see prime, tell him that's some bullshit. I am prime the prime tell him Damn, damn that's funny, hilarious. So that's the state of Transformers. Now I think once um the next two issues when Megatron revealed themselves, it's gonna pick up, but it's that's where we at right now.

SPEAKER_00 1:38:37

Word up, that's crazy talk. So also Spider Noir started.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:42

Oh, yes, so this show right here in black and white is a gym because you get two options. Um I'm shocked. I had to stop and redo the show just to see if the Sony picture credit was still there because it's Amazon fam.

SPEAKER_00 1:39:03

But it's still Sony gave me, yeah. It's only Sony because Sony has the rights to the character, but this is not a Sony production.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:11

This is the production is an Amazon production. This is Amazon. So Sony needs to give up them titles, give that shit up because look, man. You thought it was gonna be like the rest of the Sony stuff. I thought it was gonna be like the rest. Now, the only teeter line is it because it derives from Into the Spider-Verse, which is probably the most successful thing they did beyond Spider within the Spider Universe. So, um, to have Nicolas Cage come and do the show was pretty dope. It was impressive for me for one, because I thought it was gonna be campy and corny. I thought it was just gonna be him in the mask and mask, rock em sock em. Yeah, that, but you know, the guy in the mask, whoever the physical actor is gonna be, um, doing the action and shit. And then oh, with him as the voice, yeah, him as the voice of Mandalorian shit. You know what I mean? Mandalorian shit.

SPEAKER_03 1:40:08

So um, no, he was active, he was fighting scenes with Nick Cage in there, no mask, swept out, swinging bottles at niggas' heads, doing bar fights, you know, getting beat up, you know, he was getting beat up, you know. So this is dope material.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:28

So I was shocked, so that's why I was looking to see if Sonny was still involved because I'm like, wait a minute, y'all could have done this a long time ago. His name was Spider, they didn't use Spider-Man at the end. Someone called him Spidey. I thought that was real cool and shit. Like, oh man, he finally got the Spidey, it started in the 50s. Yeah, so you know, it was little things in there. There was fight scenes that reminded me if you play Spider-Man 2, you know you get all the outfits and shit, so you could get the noir outfit and shit. And you seen them fighting in some of them scenes. I'm like, man, they got this from the game. I seen this done before, so it's a lot of dope things from there. Watching them black and white first. If you do choose the color, that's an actual different color that they use because they're going for the technocolor color purposes, yeah. It's a different color graded TV friendly, yeah. Just got color graded, you know. It was very contrasty colors and stuff, but it still was TV formatted, right? So um they shot this very particular because they wanted and shout out to Pugs because we did a video for um in Black Noir style with APJ recently. Um, you were shooting for contrast, so you want hard shadows, you want hard blacks, you want hard contrasting things. So when you strip away that color, you get the hard shadow contrast, something like a sin city type feel, you know what I mean? Where you see, see like heavy darks, heavy darks, heavy darks, heavy darks. I love black and white when it comes to like photography and artwork, because when you do black and whites, you really have to pay attention to the story, and that's what Spider-Man Noir has done. It was a very impressive story. Um, when you see this all in black and white, the actors was on point. Shout out to the dude who played Robbie, his partner, the black dude. He's a comedian, he played in a few roles and stuff, but um he he was pretty good in this, man. It was good to see him acting with Nick Cage, and when he imitated Nick Cage in one of them episodes, was fucking hilarious. I couldn't stop laughing, man. But he was playing Robbie, he was a black dude, he was a journalist, he was working for the Daily Bugle, he was a photo journalist and shit. He was trying to get his shit popped off, but he was a black man in the 50s, so they wasn't going to give him the shine, you know. I mean, they're going to take the credit from him, they edit his stories and shit like that. You know what I mean? But since he was cool and right-hand man with Spider-Man, he getting all the top story, he getting all the top story. You can't get it from no one else but me. So, you know, he worked out his deal and shit like that, and he became that dude, but he was the dude that was the foot and the hands for Spider-Man. And don't get me wrong, Ben Riley is a very good um investigator as well. He's very smart, he kind of on his toe. He knows how to he know how to maneuver through shit, you know. But he's yeah, he knows how to maneuver through shit. You know, he knows how to swing through shit, you know what I mean, so to speak. So, you know, he was on the ship, but if he couldn't get around, Robbie was the dude, you know. And um, his his other partner, um, what's her name? Um secretary.

SPEAKER_03 1:43:34

Yeah, man. When dude was up in the office and pulled a pistol on she pulled the pistol on him, was like, no, it's gonna go into the phone.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:42

That's not how we do that.

SPEAKER_03 1:43:44

That's not how we do business up in here.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:46

I was like, Yeah, this shit's hard. So, yeah, it was a lot of hard gangster shit that was going on in here. It takes you to the 50 noir, like that's what Nicholas Cage said. He wants the young people to get into black and white noir cinema, you know. Watch these blank bus, watch your Twilight Zones, watch all because that's what it went to. It went from like noir mystery on mystery, you solving this, and then it went to sci-fi, you know what I'm saying? Because it talked about how Clint Marco was dope, yeah, yeah, man. And yeah, the actors, the other super beings in there, the um mega watch dude took the cake. Yeah, mega watch was cold, but I like the sand man in there. What was the black dude?

SPEAKER_00 1:44:33

Was he rhino or was he no? The black dude was um tombstone.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:38

Tombstone, okay. That's what it is. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. So all of them, they was gangsters, they was rolling with the main gangster dude. He wasn't no superpower dude, but he was a gangster. He was he was he'll be cool with you, then he'll lose it real quick. You know what I mean? Like he's very dangerous, man. Um, lady piece, the um agent persuasion, she was pretty dope, man. She was fine as fuck, man. You know what I mean? She was dope in there. The damsel in distress, don't know where what side of the fence she's on. Yeah, classical Jessica rabbit type shit. You know what I mean? Like very attractive. She swooned you so smooth, make you remove your shoes and stab you in the back, just like that. You know what I mean? So, you know, cool shit, cool tone, cool story. I really liked it. You know what I mean? I watched it in black and white. I'm gonna watch it again in color.

SPEAKER_00 1:45:35

Yeah, I gotta, I gotta finish the black and white. I started it and it's great. And it's a and like you said, it's a good example of well-written, well directed. The scenes are precise, that everything connects great, transitions are great. There is no character that's left untouched. Nobody just comes in for the like this. Is what I was again. This is what I wanted from the boys.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:02

Hey, hey man, yeah, yeah. This is what I wanted from I I'm I'm just shocked that they did this. Uh, this series is better than Venom, it's better than better than all that shit.

SPEAKER_03 1:46:15

All the movies, them cravings, and I was like, why do they do this shit? Like, why didn't they just do this in the first place?

SPEAKER_02 1:46:21

And and yeah, yeah, and just settle for whatever you would have got better results.

SPEAKER_00 1:46:27

But I think the into the spider-verse spider, I think that's a different world of creativity. I think when they did the animation for the first into the spider verse, they were they were just having fun, so they didn't worry, the business didn't get involved and didn't interrupt it because it was like it's just an animation, it's for kids, blah blah blah. So they they didn't pay attention to the creators, but and the creators ran, okay, it became a co-hit because the creators ran, the creators got to be creators and didn't get interrupted by suits dictating this and that and the third. So now that's a whole world unto itself, and they like, well, we can't touch it now because it's working and it's making more money than the other shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:05

So do a penny, man. Do a penny, do a penny, do a um there's tons you introduced a million spider men. You could do it, tell these other stories and do it right, man. You got the opportunity to do it, work out your deal with Mark. I want Spider-Punk as a live action. That's visually crazy. I'll be visually funky. I would love to see uh spider punk as live action. I would love to see Penny 99, 2099, Spider. Come on, now let's get to it. Live action, live action, spider-man, and then you could do your 2099 Ghost Riders and all the hoax. Like you could get into it if you were smart, but this is a good start. I like Nicholas Cage to uh do this more often. Um, I respect this shit.

SPEAKER_00 1:47:55

Yeah, I'm a fan, I'm a Nick Cage fan.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:59

Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_00 1:48:00

And something I knew about way back, he recently talked about that he has legally changed his name to Nicolas Cage. And then you know, I knew where I knew way back that Cage came from Luke Cage. He talked about that like way back in the day. I forgot, probably around the time he was doing Ghost Rider, and so but now he's legally Nicholas Cage. It used to be that was just his stage name as acting because his real name is what Nicholas Coppola. Uh he's a part of the Coppola family, which is why he changed his name because he didn't want you know, that's a that's a certain caliber of shit, and you don't want to, you know, he's a weirdo, and you know, I respect his weird, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I do too, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:38

He's he's definitely and Jeff Goldblum, them some yeah, they're eccentric, weird motherfuckers, but they got a method to their madness, and I ain't too close to him to know the full method. But just from Nick Cage acting in here, he he was actually acting, he was very astute when it came to it. He when it came to being when it got to the wild being wild, he was doing it inappropriately, it wasn't too crazy and shit. It was dope, man.

SPEAKER_00 1:49:03

It was a nice hey the dialogue, the dialogue, bro. Yo, this there was a there was a particular scene where they kept talking about um, like he was like he a coward, right? Remember the one detective kept telling calling a coward? He said, They remember later when the shorty was like, Oh, um huh?

SPEAKER_02 1:49:24

When she was like, You are a coward, and he was just like he was telling, go ahead, go ahead, yeah, go ahead.

SPEAKER_03 1:49:30

You go and say, Go ahead, then shit.

SPEAKER_00 1:49:33

He was like, Yeah, I am. Go ahead. He's like, I'm good. So I like that that kept recurring.

SPEAKER_02 1:49:38

But then he pulled up, and then she saw, you know, she saw the real shit. She saw through the mask, so it was dope, man. Like I said, this is dope because it's real storytelling. Like I said, you take away the color, you gotta have a it's not intriguing because your brain is not going. With the wild colors, like he was talking about before. You know, give me some good colors and sugar, and I'll sit here all day and watch your shit. No, you strip away the color, and now you gotta give me stories.

SPEAKER_00 1:50:11

Forced to rely on more stories and more nuance of background things.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:17

Yeah, and that's what cinema was. And you know, it'll always be an argument about theaters and and and staying at home and streaming and going to theaters and that experience. This is part of the experience, man. Was you know, watching getting good stories. Used to watch this shit all the time. Twilight Zones, you know what I mean? Like good or bad, those are collectively good stories, you know. Um, yeah. From the psycho series, you know what I mean? The movies and all that shit.

SPEAKER_00 1:50:45

And then remember Werewolf by Night, which was black and white first, which was great.

SPEAKER_04 1:50:51

Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:50:52

I like that too. And that and the black and white draws you in. Yeah, it draws you into the story. And that was cool. No, go ahead. No, what'd you say?

SPEAKER_02 1:51:02

No, go ahead, finish what you gotta say.

SPEAKER_00 1:51:04

The um it draws you in with the how they pulled out just the reds in Werewolf by Night.

SPEAKER_02 1:51:12

So speaking of red, we're gonna get in some color, man. Um, we didn't talk about Daredevil season three and Punisher one.

SPEAKER_00 1:51:20

Uh oh, the Punisher one shot, one shot, one kill. What was it? One last kill. One last kill, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:51:26

So Daredevil is over. Um, they're filming season three. Um, I think they wrapped up season two very well. It's been a long time since I seen the Marvel wrap-up that I was fully satisfied with. Oh, for real? Yeah, I I think I was I was cool with where everything is going. It was only going to go so much. I mean, like Fisk are we done with it. He wasn't gonna be the man. They put him on the back burner, he he'll he'll come back. Or if not, it's not about what Fisk is now, it's about where Bullseye is going. That was the underlying rap. Like Fist is gonna be doing fist. Yeah, Fist is doing fist, but now I want to know two things. Yeah, who the fuck is Valvatina or whatever her name got going on completely? Define because Define Tang, whatever her name is, Define Tang, because Luke Cage came back home and said he was replaced.

SPEAKER_00 1:52:28

He was working home, he was working with her, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:30

He was working with her, so he's replaced now with Bullseye. He was on the plane with dude going back to where wherever they're going. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 1:52:39

Well, I won't say replaced. They she uses different people for their skill sets to do certain missions.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:46

Okay, so bullseye specifically said that he couldn't do the mission because he was specifically replaced, and bullseye was on because I seen the scene over because that was the only time we get to see Luke Cage in the MCU, y'all.

SPEAKER_03 1:53:02

So that is dope, man. We get to see Jessica Jones and Luke Cage, they got their shorty and shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:53:07

So I want to see what this shorty power is about. Um, hey man, bring Danny Rand, dude. Like, we gotta see the heroes for higher. They already doing it, they already doing it, they got their own little business going on. Luke Cage is doing little missions and shit for some money and shit. He he be in the hustle and shit. So this heroes for hire, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:53:28

Season three leading to this shit, and you got me, man. You got me.

SPEAKER_02 1:53:31

I don't need to be seeing all the other shows, man. This was what I wanted to see. The street level heroes come back and get into the business. And yeah, I want to see uh defontaine and what she got.

SPEAKER_00 1:53:42

Well, it's the same thing we saw her doing before.

SPEAKER_02 1:53:46

Mozart deserves his own movie.

SPEAKER_00 1:53:49

Yeah, with with D Fontaine is what we saw her doing with everybody before this movie, which was in Thunderbolts. All she doing is continuing to use hero people to do different missions for her, and now that she's got she's got power, she's because the only people who know her dirt are the people who are now the new Avengers.

SPEAKER_02 1:54:08

Well, these they're not the new these niggas gonna die too on Doomsday. Who you talking about? The new Avengers, they're not gonna last that long, they're not no ticket selling price team, you know that shit. They're gonna get wiped out in doomsday, and I'm telling you, Defontaine is creating the dark Avengers, bro. She's creating the dark Avengers, bro. I think she's gonna give this team a shot. Dr. Doom gonna wipe these niggas out because they the rejects, man. They ain't gonna stand, they ain't got no standard time in this shit. Dr. Doom gonna wipe them out and she's gonna recycle them motherfuckers and make the dark Avengers. And I think Bullseye is gonna be a part of that.

SPEAKER_00 1:54:45

No, they need to save the dark avengers for um Osborne.

SPEAKER_02 1:54:49

I agree, but I don't think they're gonna go out with Osborne. I don't think they're doing Osborne. That's my whole thing.

SPEAKER_00 1:54:55

Well, no, because remember, after after this last after these next two Avengers movies, the whole universe starts over, so that means everybody's gonna be back, which means now we get to have everything properly, everything back. Um Osborne never showed up. Well, okay, everything back to where back back to back to where everybody can be at the same time. So we get Captain America.

SPEAKER_02 1:55:21

I don't know. I think D. Fontaine is gonna be a wrecking a force to reckon with. That's why all I'm saying. Um, we haven't seen um Osborne yet. We don't know where the MCU is going with this new reboot of um everything, really. Um, you know, the infinity, um, not the affinity war, but endgame is a remix, you know. So we're gonna have to go and see this movie. It's gonna be Lil Ties that's gonna link into Doomsday. Doomsday is kind of going to reset the board, like you said, or starting to reset. Well, the battle world is going to do that, but we don't know what all that consists of. Is gonna be crumbled and how the we don't know how the table is gonna be shaken up yet. So um, it all what it is, but I'm just going with the story that I see right now in D Fontaine. Look like she got some tricks up her sleeve. I want to see what's her end game is because I only just seen her there in um, you know, in Captain America and in Thunderbolts and shit. So I want to see where all this go. So, you know, that's a little keep me there, Marvel. Keep me winged in there. Um, now Punisher, what is it? Uh one last one. Yeah, he killed a hundred people in that episode, bro.

SPEAKER_00 1:56:34

He killed a hundred people in 10 in five minutes, 10 minutes, bro. He killed them motherfuckers quick. Damn, I mean, I didn't even realize it was that many people.

SPEAKER_02 1:56:45

That yeah, I didn't. I watched it the second time, me and my girl counted.

SPEAKER_03 1:56:51

Let's start the countdown. Here we go.

SPEAKER_02 1:56:54

Oh, oh wow, because I didn't believe it. And then once like I got past like 30 or 40 in the first like two minutes, I was like, oh, oh, yeah, he aired out that whole room. Oh, yeah. Now the Punisher is different. The Punisher um is becoming one of my favorite MCU characters. Please do more with him. Um, I can't wait to see him in Spider-Man. It's a funny uh I don't know if it's real or not, but it's him with a machine gun and Spider-Man running behind him while he's shooting.

SPEAKER_00 1:57:28

I think that's from wasn't that from Deadline? I thought that was real.

SPEAKER_02 1:57:33

I don't know if if it's real, then cool. I'm with it. I I just geeked. I just want to see what what's the connection here? Because it's such a contrast. But we're you know why they connected.

SPEAKER_00 1:57:46

It's it's this it's the father-son relationship, the surrogate father that Peter never has. He always latches on to the men, the heroes that he connects with, and him and um Frank had a temporary like relationship because Frank lost his kids, his son, and Peter kind of temporarily fills that void, like as like I can mentor you on some shit, and you and Peter's trying to make him be nicer and shit. And you know, it's like they have a little temporary surrogate in the comics where they build together, it don't last because Punisher is gonna kill people forever. Yeah, Punish is gonna kill, so you can't stop that. And Peter can't, you know, Peter comes to terms with those people who kill because he he bonds with Deadpool, you know, he connects with Blade, he connects with all these different people who are killers.

SPEAKER_02 1:58:31

It's kind of weird, right? But he's the friendly neighborhood Spider-Man, so he's the median, you know. I mean, it was one time I was reading, I think it was Civil War, one of the issues, and everyone was arguing. Spider-Man was like, How are we just gonna talk it out? And everyone looked at it, was like, The fuck? That's Spider-Man for you. He's the one who's gonna say the common obvious shit while everyone's in their own little clusterfucker world. Spider-Man's always the dude, be like, Hey man, do we have to fight and do all this shit? Like, we don't have to do because he'll be wanting to go do some fun shit. We're gonna go get some fun shit, get some pussy, you know what I mean? Like, he Mary, Mary at the crib.

SPEAKER_03 1:59:13

She texting me and shit. Spider-Man be looking at shit.

SPEAKER_00 1:59:16

Yeah, he'd be like, I gotta go. I don't know, man. I gotta go, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:59:20

He'd be like, No, man, the world is about to be vanquished if you don't know. I'm a Spider-Man though.

SPEAKER_02 1:59:26

I don't need to do this.

SPEAKER_00 1:59:27

He's like, Y'all got it, y'all got it. Y'all the Avengers, y'all the X-Men, y'all the fantastic four.

SPEAKER_02 1:59:35

Nah, we need you spider. So spider with great power comes great responsibility. I can't wait till that movie drop. Oh, I saw um check that I saw you joining. It's worth it, man. Um the Devil May Cry 2. You can see that. Um, let's see. Uh do you want to talk about I saw Mandalorian and Grogu. Okay, I was gonna ask you. Oh, yeah. I didn't.

SPEAKER_00 2:00:06

It is a season condensed into an episode where they took away all the character development. That don't sound too good.

SPEAKER_02 2:00:19

Yeah, that sounded like uh I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 2:00:23

It was it, it was yeah, it was an instant, it was instant gratification. If like what we was talking about, if you want the visuals, the eye candy, the explosions, the action, it gives you all that, but it doesn't give you any character development, it doesn't give you anything to latch on to and really like and ultimately this was this is becoming the Grogu story.

SPEAKER_02 2:00:44

Okay, I'd see.

SPEAKER_00 2:00:59

Yeah, basically, yeah, which is fucking dangerous when you really think about it.

SPEAKER_02 2:01:05

Dangerous, uh in invincible Jedi, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:01:08

That's an invincible Jedi because now he don't even gotta dodge bullets and lasers because he got fucking Mandalorian armor. Like, get the fuck he got nah, that's crazy. I got it. Then he got a lightsaber, and then he can use the force. Oh no, it's too much, it's too much, it's too much.

SPEAKER_02 2:01:25

Too much, too much, too much.

SPEAKER_00 2:01:27

Nah, but yeah, that's it's it's really it was developed, it was setting it's setting up Grogu, whether they go through it with it or not, is is to be determined, but at this point, we know who Mandalorian is, we know who Mando is. Um, Jinjaro, we know what he's about. I didn't like that he's now officially a rebel agent, like they like he's on the payroll of the rebels. I didn't like that. It took away an aspect of the man of Mando's mystique of him walking that line of whoever will pay him, he'll do something, right? But he's so embedded in the rebels.

SPEAKER_02 2:02:01

This was basically a well he was losing that tread in season three, though.

SPEAKER_00 2:02:05

Yeah, and I don't I liked when the when the start when the X-Wing fighters would pull up on you like police officers, what you're doing over there, you know, you know, pull over. Now it's you know, they they swooping in to say the day. It's like Mando getting saved by X-Wing Fighters, it's very strange. Yeah, it's weird, you know, it just don't look right, and then this was less about he didn't they didn't get to the empire, so this is definitely room for the continuation of this story, whether it takes place in a season or another movie, but it was about the um huts, and it was about Jabba the Hutt's son and his and his um and Jabba's twin, I think twin cousins. Or it was his son. Well, his son is the one, and then there's the twin cousins of Jabba. It's a bunch of his family, and it's a bunch of huts in this movie, okay, and they're all competing for the throne, and so that's what the movie is really about. It's about them trying to get information from the Huts on the Empire coming back, and Mando has to go do save, supposedly save Jabba the Hut's son, because the twins are saying, Oh, there he's been captured, and you know, people are trying to ransom him. And if you save him, then we'll give you the information on the on the empire. But what it turns out was that the whole time the huts was selling information to the empire on what the rebels was doing, so they was gonna double, they was double, they was gonna play the both sides, they was gonna sell the info to the rebels. Meanwhile, they selling info to the empire. They wouldn't, they know good either way, you know. Which is the huts, they're they're they're mobsters, they don't they don't fuck with the cops or the government.

SPEAKER_02 2:03:42

Check out Maul if you haven't checked out Maul the series as well. Um, that's pretty good. Yeah, that's actually I gotta finish it. I gotta finish a few more episodes, but uh, from what I seen, it's really good. It brings out the uh the criminology of Star Wars. I like stories like that, man. I like with the criminal when they do gangster shit in Star Wars, which is what Mando was. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:04:05

He was a criminal, he was on the criminal, he was on the he was not on the police, he wasn't fucking with the popo, right?

SPEAKER_02 2:04:11

Right, he was doing whatever pays, and hey man, sometimes pay dirty. Hey, fuck it, man. The dirty credits, I won't be back on this planet no more. So here you go. Like I'm so um, so nah, check that out. Check out mall if you haven't. Um, do you want to talk about uh Kevin Hart Rose? Sure, I don't care.

SPEAKER_00 2:04:35

Um, I'm I mean, honestly, I don't fuck with Kevin Hart.

SPEAKER_02 2:04:40

I don't know, I don't either. So that's let's get that clear. I'm I man, I've never been a fan. Nah, there was a time I watched his movies comedy. I did like early on, maybe. I like this first two stand-ups, and then after that, I go by the quality who you are. You know, I mean, if you a stand-up comedian, then I'm gonna give you your stand-up credit. Once you are I lose that identity, and then you go into acting and all that shit, it's whatever after that, you know what I mean. You know, because Eddie Murphy still stand-up. I was born off Eddie Murphy stand-up first, you know what I'm saying? Um, movie second, uh, you know, all the other stand-ups that put up Bernie Mac, all them niggas was stand-up comedians, even today. Dion Cole, you know what I'm saying, stand-up comedian comedians, you know what I mean? So I go by your quality of work when it goes in that regard. When it goes to Kevin Hart, I've been a fan a long time ago. I never was a fan, you know. I just thought he was had funny moments. Um, when he went into Hollywood, becoming the um the rock becoming the rock's bitch, yeah, little bitch and shit. Shaq little bitch too. She there's pictures he'll pick it up and do very non-masculine things, yeah. Non-masculine. So if this is your perception on Hollywood and your career, your business as that type of dude, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:06:08

You get what you get, you know. That's what you I don't expect. I don't expect anything but Bryant Gumble. So, you know what? You know, to just to put it in simple forms, you know who Kevin Hart is. Kevin Hart makes Wayne Brady look like Brian Gumble. You know, it's like Kevin Hart really is the one who makes Wayne, you know, because Wayne Brady, we we saw he he the real deal.

SPEAKER_02 2:06:31

Yeah, we know what Wayne is all about, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:06:34

But Kevin Hart is the real the real one. Like you don't you don't expect revolution, you don't exp you don't expect black centric thought, you don't expect um political positions of empowerment and revolution and um fighting the power. You don't expect him to talk on the same thing for Drake, too. Now what I don't expect that from him, right?

SPEAKER_02 2:06:57

Yeah, what these niggas stand on, but that's my whole point. It's like all right, it's entertainment, right? It's all entertainment. Um, no, I don't have those expectations for Kevin Hart. So when it comes to a platform where it's supposed to be a roast and about Kevin Hart, his about Kevin Hart, he says his production, right? His production, his production he took claim on that. Um see, he spoke already, so now we just he spoke on Breakfast Club, said that was his production. At first, I gave him was like, oh, maybe it was just Netflix all Netflix, but no, he put claim into that. That was his production. All right, so you create a platform for his roast, and he selected the co um the comedians to be up there. I'm seen roast my first roast I seen was the roast of Richard Pryor, and um that particular roast had majority black comedians on there. Only white motherfuckers was a few was Carlin, of course, and Robin Williams. Yeah, the people that they fuck with, people that they fuck with, right?

SPEAKER_00 2:08:07

That's the key word. The only people that's supposed to be on the roast are people you fuck with.

SPEAKER_02 2:08:13

Yeah, yeah. So now we go fast forward to Kevin Harding and you see all these white Alikes, and it's like that, those words don't even sound right together. White Alikes, that's where they are, though. Because it's on their field of what they own, right? You know, I looked at that shit like it was a platform for them to let a couple rounds off. You know what I mean? Like they was letting a couple rounds off on our behalf. The writing staff was all white, comedian majority is all white. Why the fuck is uh dude on stay? You know, like these black motherfuckers, yeah, Tiffany Haddish on there, she didn't get her parts edited. They say some jokes was taken out as well, but yeah, it just take out the other jokes, right? Yeah, exactly. Exactly. It's kind of like um, you know, the sinner's thing with the dude Tourette's you took out all the other shit when you kept that, you know. So, what's the intent? So, the laughing boy, that's what you are. You the laughing boy, you are the sellout, you are the motherfucker that we don't fuck with anyway. If you showed up, you will not be invited to the cookout. So, so this is not the case of the cookout where you invite the enemy in. This is more of this, ain't even our cookout in the first place. No, this was his cookout, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:09:34

Yeah, now the thing is, and this is where this this is a different world that we're in. We like again talking about the Richard Pryor um roast or any a lot of other roasts. There are two types of roast, there are authentic roast. Again, these are people that you fuck with, you're inviting your homies, right? People that know you, thus, right, they can really roast you, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, because they know you. Robin Williams knows Richard Pryor. You see what I'm saying? These guys were George Carlin, he knew Richard Pryor. Yeah, these people were in shared stages, they yeah, these were people that were in the same rooms together, right? Creating Wayne's is like all these niggas, like, come on, these are real people that knew each other, but now today there's a different type of roast. This roast is about celebrityism and it's about numbers, it's about views. So I want to get as many views as possible. So, what I have to do is I have to draw as many different audiences into this conversation for them to watch because I want to get the money, that's the sellout part. I'm willing to do whatever it takes to get the highest numbers for the highest value. So, therefore, knowing, and this is where the truth of it comes in. If you go into a rural, a rural southern town or a rural Plainsland America town and listen to a comedian in a bar, you're gonna hear a lot of racist shit. You're gonna hear a lot of sexist shit. Absolutely, you're gonna hear a lot of things that are that are controversial towards any form of protected class you can think of. So now those people are people I would never go see, I would never watch because you know why they would never show up to any of the venues that I go to on the south side and do that comedy. Exactly, they wouldn't even be invited, exactly, and vice versa. The comedians that I see there, D-way ain't gonna end up in the middle of Idaho, yeah. Protect E-Ray, don't walk in there, man. Right your ass around it. So there's so in that regard, there are comedians who are as successful as Dave Chappelle, who are completely racist comedians.

SPEAKER_02 2:11:38

Yeah, yeah, yes, yes, yes, yes.

SPEAKER_00 2:11:40

You know what I'm saying? There are comedians that are as an audience for it. There's an audience for it. My thing is is that when like you said, when you bring these people into the room, knowing what they're that they're going to say things that are gonna be kind of offensive, and not offensive in a casual ha ha ha. How funny, but deliberately taking jabs at because when you get into racial jokes, you're either doing the racial joke because it is funny because it's true, or you get into the ones that are are only funny to racist and prejudiced people, racist and prejudiced people, and that's the jokes that we're yeah, though that's the line.

SPEAKER_02 2:12:20

Say the George Four Floyd thing, and I even get the whole thing. He said looking up. I got the looking up. I caught looking up from hell. Looking up from hell. Oh shit, I even peeped that part of the joke. Like, that's funny. Like, that's time. Like, so I'm not here to tell comedian what to say. I ain't on that shit. I I'm on the I ain't I'm gonna watch Dark Knight return. Dark Knight, man. I ain't about the dog. I'm about to who let the dog off the leash, bro. Yeah, and that's what I'm saying. You said ain't about the joke, ain't about all that shit. You set that you set up a black cook. Well, not black cookouts, it's not, it's a Kevin Hart cookout. It's a Kevin Hart cookout. And your cookout consists of this, and this is what they is spewing and giving. Like, I didn't like the flavor flavor roast, you know what I mean? It was the same type of shit, and um celebrityism, yeah. I didn't like that shit either. After that, you know, we kind of lost a little respect or whatever for flavor flavor for that. Man, it's like you have to do that, man. I don't like seeing you. Typically are a hero, you know what I mean? Like Chuck D, you and Chuck D did your thing, so but Kevin Hart don't have that lineage, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 2:13:33

So we all that shit is just nipping the bud look at the dude, and then after he responds to it and be like, hey, hey guys, but I got all these deals with Lee Jeans and all this shit, and I got all this shit, guys.

SPEAKER_02 2:13:45

I mean, look at me, look at me. Like, get your little goofy ass up out of here. So when the revolution hit, we're gonna shoot you in the head.

SPEAKER_03 2:13:57

You ready for that, man?

SPEAKER_02 2:13:59

This is where we at in the real world, bro. We ain't playing that okay dope shit. If you an uncle Tom coon ass nigga, then be your uncle Tom Coon ass nigga. I just hope he got Robo around you. Because if you come around us on some bullshit, we ain't falling for that okey dope, bro. We don't go for that over here. We don't do that here. We don't do that here.

SPEAKER_00 2:14:23

We don't do that.

SPEAKER_02 2:14:23

We don't do that here.

SPEAKER_00 2:14:25

Yeah, so I mean Kevin is Kevin. That's why I say, like, um, I don't expect Kevin to do nothing but what Kevin does, and I'm not looking for him to champion my cause because he never has. He never, never he never has, never, he ain't built like that. Nope. So, you know, that's why I didn't even watch the fucking roast to begin with. I didn't I didn't watch it either. I was just what's this is all over the media, but the out the outrage is from people who also didn't watch the roast.

SPEAKER_02 2:14:54

I I that's three hours. I tried to watch it, then I saw what was all the cast of. I cut that shit off. But no, my my instincts cut it.

SPEAKER_00 2:15:02

I'm like, ah I'm but see, but but but but Pete, most roast shame.

SPEAKER_02 2:15:07

I mean, why dude? Get the out of here.

SPEAKER_00 2:15:10

Most of the outrage is from people who didn't watch the roast. Okay, and that's the whole point. You're not supposed to be watching the roast, it wasn't for you, just like the redneck uh races in the small town. I will never go to his comedy show, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:15:26

Yeah, comedy show, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:15:28

And I'm like, Oh, they said this like no shit, no shit, no shit, you know, Lady Bisby. You the blind one, like all these people that that react to Trump. Oh, Trump did this, Trump said this. No shit, no shit.

unknown 2:15:45

Who cares?

SPEAKER_02 2:15:46

That's right.

SPEAKER_00 2:15:47

We know what the fuck he is, we know what the fuck he is.

SPEAKER_02 2:15:50

By the way, that's funny because breaking news. Um, I saw someone online saying that he gets uh he have some partnership shares in TKO. So I want to see how uh all you uh Trump's non-supporters is watching wrestling and UFC gonna move forward. Man, listen.

SPEAKER_03 2:16:06

Let's do the DC blackout.

SPEAKER_00 2:16:08

DC Blackout with WWE Trump and Vince were homies.

SPEAKER_02 2:16:13

They was homies, they had a whole uh shave your head match one time for uh was for Vince. I forgot who was. I think Kurt Angle was for uh for Trump.

SPEAKER_00 2:16:27

Why, yeah, listen, listen. So this is where we get into a whole different conversation, right?

SPEAKER_04 2:16:36

That's and this conversation.

SPEAKER_00 2:16:37

So um Freedom from CNC Music Factory just got into some heat because um he was invited to do a performance.

SPEAKER_02 2:16:46

So a lot of black performers, and they but they didn't know it was a Trump performance, they didn't know it was for Trump. That's the thing because I was like, Well, how but hold on, listen.

SPEAKER_00 2:16:55

So Freedom, he was like, Listen, I got invited to do a performance. I said, sure. I later found out it was Trump, and I said, I don't think I want to do this. But then he said, People online was going in and all this stuff about him, and he was like, Wait a minute, first of all, none of y'all tell me what to do. So if I do the show, I'm gonna do it because I want to, not because you're telling me not to, and if I don't do it, it's gonna be because I don't want to, not because you tell me to. Because it was like everybody was trying to act like he chose and deliberately, and it was like, No, we got invited, you get booked for a show.

SPEAKER_02 2:17:24

Yeah, a lot of things can come up.

SPEAKER_00 2:17:26

But here's where it gets interesting. I'm telling, and this is this is me talking to everybody right now. Until y'all motherfuckers know what the politics of the person who owns the company you get paid by is shut the up because y'all ready to go off on celebrities at every waking moment about every little thing. What your politics like in your life? What's the politics of PGE when you pay?

SPEAKER_02 2:17:54

You know what I mean? Listen, you know, you look at these checks, you look at these corporations y'all working for, these jobs y'all been taxed the bank you put your money in, bank you putting your money in and shit, nigga.

SPEAKER_00 2:18:06

You know, it's like where okay. So, what's the politics of the guy who car you own? Everybody want to talk about Elon Musk, but we don't even know the politics of the guy that runs Chevrolet right now.

SPEAKER_02 2:18:15

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 2:18:16

We don't know the guy that runs Dodge, we don't know their politics.

SPEAKER_02 2:18:20

Yeah, we don't know none of that. We don't know that none of that.

SPEAKER_00 2:18:23

We we we are very much in a position of of self-righteousness and hubris because we all act like we in this safe protected bubble of we know everything and we doing we got integrity, nigga.

SPEAKER_03 2:18:34

You don't know, and you don't know none of this because you don't know.

SPEAKER_02 2:18:39

That's what I'm saying. Like the whole DC thing, it's like man, that's a waste of time because even when they did it, who cares? You know what I mean? Like that that don't fly. That's corporation bullshit. It's like when motherfuckers was doing the T'Challa thing, uh recast. You better recast. We ain't doing no movies, you don't tell us what to do. Right, and they stopped doing the movie and shit. It's like nigga, nah, we gonna do what we want to do, ain't nothing. You ain't win shit. Nah, ain't nothing. We doing it our way, all right.

SPEAKER_00 2:19:10

Whatever, whatever you want to do as an individual, go do it.

SPEAKER_02 2:19:16

That's it.

SPEAKER_00 2:19:16

Just go do it. There's nothing wrong with that. Don't wait, don't sit and wait for nobody to provide you what you want for yourself. You go do it.

SPEAKER_03 2:19:28

So you can't have some ice cream, like go do it.

SPEAKER_00 2:19:31

Permission and if you want to see a black character in a comic book, either go do it yourself. If you don't have the skills, you still got the ability to find all the hundreds and thousands and millions of black creators who are pushing their independent comic books online and everywhere. Just go find them. If you want to see a black comedian who got integrity, go listen to one or go become one. But don't expect we can't tell these people what to do. You got to control your cypher.

SPEAKER_02 2:20:05

Why you telling you telling them like you telling them to do like come on, man, that never works, bullwinkle. It never worked. That's what I'm saying. Don't waste your energy because I'd rather discover the blacks and put them on top than use that energy and fight something that you're gonna lose and fight anyway. You just getting this to garner attention. These little lame motherfuckers who can't get you can't get popping on their own is doing this because they ain't got no life, they ain't got shit popping at the crib, youtuber. No youtuber nigga. My life is great when I cut off this motherfucker camera. What do yours look like? You know what I mean? Like the out of here. I don't need this camera and all this.

SPEAKER_00 2:20:46

But let's be honest, the reason why we hear this is because there was no one else doing it.

SPEAKER_03 2:20:52

If I want to hear about Rufus Sims and Ju Gillian, talk to me about Rufus Sims from my perspective.

SPEAKER_00 2:20:59

If I want to hear about Vic Spencer and they out and his album, I want to hear about filmmore green, I want to hear about Taiwan Davis, I want to hear about Pugs Adams. Who doing it? Nobody, so we had to do it. We didn't complain and go beg other people. Y'all need to talk about Chicago artists. We need we need Gilly to we need Gilly and Wallow to talk about Chicago artists.

SPEAKER_02 2:21:22

No, I don't know Chicago doing pluggings. I don't give a fuck because then I'm happy to. We can do it ourselves. Shout out to Fat Joe, though. I see him in Chicago. He plugged though. Shout out to Fat Joe.

SPEAKER_00 2:21:39

That don't change what I said. No, it doesn't. I don't change what I said.

SPEAKER_02 2:21:44

Yo, PSA for the young men, man. Hey man, calm the fuck. I heard this thing. Yeah, calm the down these streets. Y'all outside, like outside. It's been warm now. But don't be walking on people's cars and shit. Now, look, man, we was outside, we used to mob the streets. We used to go to the Navy Navy pier. We used to go to the Navy pier and shit. We be downtown in front of uh Marshall Fields when it was Marshall Fields, not Macy's.

SPEAKER_03 2:22:12

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:22:12

We used to storm downtown chips, moon, and motherfuckers and benegans and shit like that. Like, yo, we was wilding. This is what we used to do. Hey, we might pull a heist or two, too. You might run up in something and run and do a do or do our thing. That's kids' nature, man. But we wasn't out here just causing all ruckus and shit, man. We was just being young and being in the zone, and we wanted to rap in battle. That was it. Um, shout out to my man Kemmis. He was like, Man, when you seen Pugs, Cosmo, and Riff Napalm walk around, man. It's kind of like over.

SPEAKER_01 2:22:51

Omar coming.

SPEAKER_02 2:22:55

Omar and Debo, like in the terminator. Oh shit. It's like, nah, man. We we we was enjoying ourselves. We was culture, but we did have things to do. We did have shit to do. We was just hanging out. Kids hanging out too, but don't be stepping on people's cars and all that shit. Don't be destroying people's property and all that shit.

SPEAKER_00 2:23:17

Tag, we used to tag, tag on tag on some walls, get you some graffiti, tag yeah, get get your skills up, do something constructive that you can turn into an actual monetary career.

SPEAKER_02 2:23:30

Do some shit, you know. I mean, be creative out here, you know. Hey, listen, in that zone, so what's up?

SPEAKER_00 2:23:37

I got one more thing to say. I'm going back to these fucking podcasters. Oh shit, not even the podcasters. I want to talk about these fucking rappers. Okay, I'm sick of these rappers, man.

SPEAKER_02 2:23:50

We mean rappers, let's get into it. Like, so I wanna go back to the rock rock video, man. Look, man, I ain't gotta be that rapper.

SPEAKER_03 2:23:58

I ain't gotta be that rapper. What do you want to do?

SPEAKER_02 2:24:05

I was looking like uh-huh. I've seen who like you, who's not. I'm looking at all that nah.

SPEAKER_00 2:24:12

I want to talk about the these these fake ass rappers that ain't nothing but industry hoes. Oh Jim Jones, uh, all them cats, industry, the like these cat the one, like so.

SPEAKER_02 2:24:26

For example, the one we stuck the abysmal ones who's trying to use media as an outsource of resource of income.

SPEAKER_00 2:24:32

The people like the people that are making fun of of the of other people in the uh that are musicians and artists and mcs. So, like, for example, the whole thing that happened with Big Daddy with Big Daddy King. Oh, so you know, you you like people are choosing to make mockery of of an artist because they're trying to get some shine, so they got to shit on somebody else to do it, yeah. And now we got uh um this situation man oh Jim Jones and all of them. And in the in the conversation, they looking at a list of like top R MCs, you know, and Pasta News is on there. Yeah, and Jim Jones, like who is Pasta News? For real, and then tried to play the shade. So it's like look, you you can be mad that you ain't on the list at a certain level, but you definitely need to be careful when you mentioning names that you ain't prepared that you can't handle lyrically yourself. You know, I'm I'm I'm it's unfortunate that this ain't back in the day.

SPEAKER_02 2:25:41

Nah, I think we're creeping around there, man. I I think now we talking about it. Now it's you know, I was trying to wrap it up, but now we go on now. We need to talk on this because this is real. This is when, um, like I said, a lot of you motherfucking rappers, you industry rappers that has no industry no more. So now you're trying to make a name for yourself because your industry credibility hasn't worked beyond your uh career opportunity. So now you're kind of stuck at a void where you try to do different things, but it's not gonna work because they know you're for your little stint in this industry, and um, that's all you got to show for. So now you're trying to do this other shit and you want on motherfuckers that created the culture and laid the foundation, but you even pretend like you were part of it. You're not bigger than any culture, you max B. I don't give a fuck what your name is, you're not bigger than the culture, homie. Sit down, you're from New York, but that New York shit is only got his own weight as well. That shit's getting boring, too. You only like someone said, the and no disrespect to Cameron. Cameron understand the movement, he's doing his thing now, he's hosting the NBA finals with Stevie A, Stephen A. Smith, and all that shit. Cam is a hustler, a smart one, and he knows what he's doing. That guy's gonna be big, and he's gonna make it in the world. But you niggas, nah, y'all are just industry plants, and you got nowhere else to grow as and you don't have a pot no more, you have no pot to piss in.

SPEAKER_00 2:27:34

So you know, but for real, like like they need to stop that, man. Like this thing, like you know, this is coming from the side of the fly nerve. So we're talking about we're gonna stand up for hours, yeah. And at the end of the day, y'all don't want nothing with no Chicago MCs. Y'all really don't want nothing with y'all own New York MCs that y'all trying to shit on.

SPEAKER_02 2:27:56

Yeah, you can't even handle that shit. Oh, if it comes to that territory, nigga, y'all are dusted. Fuck out of here.

SPEAKER_00 2:28:03

Y'all are chops like at that, like asking who mf doom. Like, I don't give a fuck who you are for real. If you if you're in the industry and you don't know anything about MF Doom, Ghostface talk about MF Doom like crazy. They was gonna do a whole album together, they got a whole album together. You're real, he's a real one. He ain't he's from he ain't he. That's my point. That's my point. These cats pretending they don't know who these guys are. It's like you mean you never heard these names ever in life. They skipped over MF Doom, like they didn't they play like they didn't, yeah. Like they know who he was. Well, certain people, like so. So to be fair, they when they mentioned when um Jim asked about Pasta News, everybody corrected her. No, let's leave Pasta News alone. You don't want to with him, but then later, man knows like who's who's who's MF Doom? It's like uh y'all play games, man. Y'all know if how do you not know he okay?

SPEAKER_02 2:28:58

I'll listen here and you don't know who mf doom.

SPEAKER_00 2:29:01

How do you not know who this dude was? This dude made it all the way to Adult Swim. Exactly. He did he did albums with your favorite producer from New York from New York from New York.

SPEAKER_03 2:29:12

Now, your New York knowledge should be on point when you were still trying to grind and figure out your style.

SPEAKER_02 2:29:18

This was killing it doing it himself, and he figured it out how to make money in his own pocket without even exposing his face to do it.

SPEAKER_00 2:29:25

To imagine that you never rock tried to freestyle to an MF Doom beat tells me everything I need to know. You didn't listen to special herbs and spices that never came across, y'all.

SPEAKER_02 2:29:34

That's true because if you heard 50 cents, he used an MF.

SPEAKER_00 2:29:38

That's what I'm saying. It's bullshit.

SPEAKER_02 2:29:41

He used the MF.

SPEAKER_00 2:29:42

It's what I'm saying. It's kind of it's like it'd be different if you was young.

SPEAKER_02 2:29:47

If you was a kid, that's why I I distinctly said industry rappers, yeah. Because there's a difference of culture, no one for cut from the culture will ask a question. You niggas don't know who Fate is, right? Like, you know, it's certain things like that where y'all will probably quote who's this dude. If you don't know and you asking questions, then I'm you look you don't you ass out.

SPEAKER_00 2:30:11

Yeah, that's on you.

SPEAKER_02 2:30:13

Yeah, I'm making look at you. I'm looking at you crazy because oh, you don't know why in the fuck you don't know who Pasanusi is. And you are you sure? Are you from New York for real? Are you sure? Where you come from? Are you sure?

SPEAKER_00 2:30:25

What you grew up listening to?

SPEAKER_02 2:30:27

They guys are not from New York, but at the same time, are you yeah, they are? No, they're not from the borough, they're from uh Long Island.

SPEAKER_00 2:30:36

Is is right there. I mean, that's like saying they don't know who MPMD is, or you know, that's like standing.

SPEAKER_02 2:30:42

I mean, there's a lot of things saying you don't know who who is, if you question that, man. So, yeah, man, the veil's being lifted. Like I said, there's a lot of culture that we need to relinquish on and just focus on our own cities and states and our own girls and do our own thing because we've been fed a lot of industry bullshit for the past 20 years now. Now that shit's dead and gone. These niggas we seen what real is like, oh, you wasn't real nigga anyway. You wasn't real nigga anyway. Like they say, don't meet your heroes because they end up looking like Homelander on the boys when he lost his powers. Now that was hilarious. When Homelander lost his powers and that motherfucker was trying to fly, then he just turned to a whole quivalent bitch. That was the best part of that.

SPEAKER_00 2:31:31

He said he turned to it.

SPEAKER_02 2:31:33

Oh, he was. He offered oral services to butchers, so he wouldn't kill him, dude. Like, nah, that was that was a classic Anthony. Do who played Homelander? You get your props, you get your props because yeah, he he definitely turned to a quivalent bitch. So butcher wouldn't kill him, man. And this was all on live TV and everything, man. It exposed the power and how that shit get pulled, and then showing how weak, pussy, and soft these motherfuckers portraying to be. That's why I said the crux was at the high point with a train because he told him off top on the first episode, you ain't shit, you nothing. I was scared of nothing. I don't care you kill me, you still are nothing. That's gonna go to your heart versus this death. And you'll never be able to get those words taken back because I'm gone. Yeah, and yep, yep. So that goes to show, and that's a lot of that being revealed today as the time goes on. Because these niggas ain't doing nothing but playing themselves. That's how I look at it. I don't even listen to Maino and all them niggas because I know it's just a bunch of plagiar rhetoric, man. It's nothing I'm gonna get from there. It's like eating a bowl of now ladies versus you know, a full-fledged salad and shit, like a bowl of now and laders, a whole bowl of now and laders versus a salad, nigga.

SPEAKER_00 2:33:02

Like, wait, that's crazy. That's crazy. That analogy is now later crazy work, crazy work, and it's like, and let me just clarify like I fuck with people's music, but that'll give you a pass for the shit that you say.

SPEAKER_02 2:33:19

No, ideologies and perspectives and all that shit. That doesn't mean differently, and that's where open season from all you artists that's going out opening your mouths and now, and be like, I don't kind of agree with you either. I thought we were cool, you know. I mean, it'd be people from the team like talking, oh shit, man. Wait a minute now.

SPEAKER_03 2:33:42

I don't like that at all.

SPEAKER_02 2:33:43

Wait a minute now.

SPEAKER_03 2:33:44

Hold on now, allow me to retort.

SPEAKER_02 2:33:48

So, you know, there's a lot of that going on. A lot of people exposing themselves, saying some things, they're switching goalposters, they're doing a lot of things, or just ignorant to the fact of their own culture, which I find political.

SPEAKER_00 2:34:00

And I'm gonna tell you what it is. The ship is going down, and they're going down with the ship. And just like we see these extremist races and bigots throwing them Hail Marys to try to survive and keep their legacy of philosophy and mindset going. These cats was a part of that equation. Yeah, they're going down with that ship, and now they're trying to throw these Hail Marys to prove their relevance. They try to find a lifesaver or some shit. They're trying to survive off of some shit. It's like, nah, you see, you wanted to be a part of that world. So now it's the fall.

SPEAKER_02 2:34:33

We say we bringing the word whack and all this shit, calling it out for what it is. We couldn't do this because you was hating, and oh, you just this down the third. You just you just oh hater man. No, that shit was trash, and you let this motherfucker survive and eat for five years. Well, this could have been a place for someone that really has skill. So now all you like you said, the ship is sinking. You motherfuckers ain't got no lifesavers, no canoes, you don't know how to swim. You didn't acknowledge those skills.

SPEAKER_00 2:35:04

I just realized you were saying lifesaver. I thought you said lightsaber. It's like hey, you can have a lightsaber in the ocean, ain't gonna do any good. Hey, I was that's where in my mind, you know. I was sitting here with the calculations, and I'm like, I don't get it.

SPEAKER_02 2:35:23

I'll cut the water, I'll cut the water. Hopefully, it'll leave me some accidents. Oh, that was classic.

SPEAKER_00 2:35:30

But nah, man, yeah, y'all, y'all, everybody out there like that, man. Come just just come. First of all, get some respect, get some integrity, and and get back to your roots, get back to the roots. Y'all been sitting on them high and mighty, sitting at the table with the wrong people, and they've given you the wrong ideas. And you guys don't know how to turn off them ideas. And if you notice, most of them ideas deal with the degradation and destruction of your own people. Taking the opportunity to shit on people that didn't do anything to you. Right. When the fact of the matter is, if you don't know this person, like you said, that's on you, find out who that person is. You might be surprised that that nigga roast you lyrically 100% in any given Sunday, any Sunday, before he even wakes up. Yeah, he's sleep, he's sleep rapping. But at the same time, you know, you could we anybody that wanna come correct is welcome back into the fold. Like, all you gotta do is stand on business. Yeah, that's some real show your work, show your work, show your work, yes, man. Stand on business and show ain't showing work with this with this rah-rah because it don't make any sense. The the old hair rah rah is no different than these kids out here running around with these takeovers, jumping on cars, right? Right, and let's be real, I appreciate whomever is initiating and organizing this shit because it's amazing. You able, if you got that type of reach, that's ultimate influencer, that's the piece with the magnetic. Let's find out who this kid is and give him some knowledge itself.

SPEAKER_02 2:37:07

But if you use your skills for good, that's what I'm saying. You have young Jedi's.

SPEAKER_00 2:37:15

Listen, seriously, if you can organize these takeovers where you got these people doing bullshit, let's not waste you can you can do other things, you can do a chance to rapper concert, yeah, organize them same people into a park and charge for a concert. All you gotta do is figure out those angles, and if you can figure out how to do dirt, you can figure out how to do good. Let's just be real.

SPEAKER_02 2:37:36

Y'all just know a little bit harder to do good because it's easier to do dirt. That's what they always say. Yeah, but it is, but see, it's harder to do dirt because the consequences are greater, yeah. That's true, and now we're in the time now. Everything being washed, so y'all doing dirt ain't like us doing dirt because we could actually have a 60-40 chance, sometimes 70-30 chance to get in the way with it.

SPEAKER_00 2:37:58

Um, you guys as kids go through your rites of passage, go through what you got to go through, learn your angles, figure out the your way in this world. But choosing to do something that could wind up ruining your future, you want to have fun and take it from adults. You don't want that fun to stop, fam.

SPEAKER_02 2:38:21

You don't want the fun to end, and it will end in those system where you can't have control over your own life, bro. Like, we we trying to save lives here for real, man. You don't want to be in that shit where you get to be 40 and 50 years old, you scrambling, trying to still get your life together because you was doing bullshit the whole youth, yeah. Dude, like stop that. Don't do that, man. Set yourself up now so you set yourself up for health, wealth, and knowledge yourself.

SPEAKER_00 2:38:50

Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Get your money, but do it, do get yourself. Listen, if you want to rap, think about the industry of rap. Think about all that it takes. When you go to a show to perform, there's a guy that sets up your sound and make sure you sound good for the audience. There was a guy they paid to establish the speakers in the right places so that the sound in this venue sounds good. There's a person behind the bar who is serving drinks, getting paid for that. There's a person who ordered and paid for the drinks and picked out the liquor that was gonna be at the bar. There's a person who sit there and built the actual stage, you know, whole nother level. Yeah, there's a person who manages the venue to ensure, there's a person who manages the ticket sales, there's a person who manages all different aspects, and that's just you doing one show. So now we get behind the scenes of other aspects of things. There are so many places where you can bring get some money, other than just that one thing. So while you're grinding to become the best rapper in the world, you can be in the industry doing other things simultaneously getting paid for it. That and and that's the real key.

SPEAKER_02 2:39:59

You wouldn't care about being the best rapper. That's what I learned. That's what I learned doing photography. It's like, oh, I don't have to be the best because I am the best rapper in the world. But but well, the getting the money, that's what I mean. The success. Well, the money, success, and all that shit comes into many other ties and how you do your business and how you put yourself out there, you know. I'm saying you do that the right way, then all that shit is going to garner success. And there's actually artists that's doing it, you know. I mean, own your shit, put your shit out at your own time. Do you do your shows and your shits, and you should be good. Um, look, there's a even a conversation where they were saying, because this is for the young folks, man. You know, um, that smoking loud thing was kind of hilarious where people were saying that these cats can't perform, you know. Well, that's because they're young busy thing that their culture is too busy doing takeovers instead of practicing your craft, which is my point.

SPEAKER_00 2:40:55

Instead of being out there wild and doing dumb shit, practice your craft. You can do things different ways, you just have to put some effort into it.

SPEAKER_02 2:41:03

And there's integrity to art, man. There's performance arts. I'll always put rapping and performance arts all together because there is a skill set. Not everyone, and that was our thing. Not everyone could go on that stage, not everyone could go on that stage and captivate a whole bunch of people, not everyone could go on that stage and project their voice accordingly. Not everyone could go on stage and know how to give the energy to the crowd and receive the energy back with showmanship. You know what I'm saying? A lot of people don't can't get on the stage and know how to flip it off and on when they need to and have to on some improv shit in case something happened, and just being an MC, a crowd mover, move the crowd, an MC, not a drill, right? Not no, I ain't even gonna put that out. No, because in that space, they can have it, they can have the same skills, they can have the same step, they can have that same utility belt if any genre, but when you go on stage as a performer, performance is kind of important when you go out there to be a performer, and the shit shows rapping over your music, you know, not really knowing the lyrics, you letting the crowd know it, and assuming that they know your song, you know. I mean, um, no relationship with the people, no connection with the people, all of this is bad looks, and this has been going on for years, and we can't say nothing because you sound like a hater and you're not whack. You can't say it's whack anymore. Well, now we're in a new era, the attitude era has shifted again, baby. Fuck that 100%. Fuck that shit. So let's get your shit together, man. Let's get your shit together, man. And all you New York, I just seen the thing where you got that from with um dude saying that was real. I thought you was actually just fabricating, but no, that's real Jones.

SPEAKER_03 2:43:02

You don't know who possible said from Daylight Soul, you dumb fuck. That's why we don't fuck with you, rap niggas like that anymore. It's over, it's over.

SPEAKER_02 2:43:13

I'm solidified for Flynn Air Group and the culture and whatever the culture stands for, and the real behind that, and only the real and Chicago first, yeah. In Chicago first, man. I ain't putting no other capes on my back for no other state. I'm sorry, we call collab, and when I visit your town, I know who the real niggas to build with, and then we'll move on from there. But all you industry niggas, your time is up, and yeah, I put out that video just to show niggas the real could slap you in the face anytime, bro. And I ain't gotta do all that shit. I ain't gotta do shit. All I gotta do is give me the beats, and that's coming too. MPC sample. So it's a lot of shit we cooking on, a lot of shit I'm doing, a lot of shit that I'm happy about for flying her group. Thank you. Um, to all the listeners, all the people that shows up, represent the regularly about the culture, not about this bullshit with these little clowns are doing. These are clowns, bro.

SPEAKER_03 2:44:18

You a clown, you're a clown, you don't know your own shit.

SPEAKER_02 2:44:26

Hey, you know, if you was a gangbanger, someone had ran up and you said you didn't know some part of lick, that's a mouth shot. That's a mouth shot, Jim Jones. That's a mouth shot. You don't know who Pasanus is. You let your man this bit Big Daddy Kane and shit like that. Like, yo, y'all New York niggas, man. Y'all need to get dude with a mouth shot. That's 20 minutes on the wall. 20 minutes on the wall, man. 20 minutes on the wall.

SPEAKER_00 2:44:58

Yeah, man. It's this is but yeah, you're right. This is their there's they're showing their true colors, and is is is it's down bad. We down bad right now. They down bad.

SPEAKER_02 2:45:07

We ain't down bad, they down bad. We ain't down shit.

SPEAKER_00 2:45:10

We good we just need to get the culture thriving in this over here.

SPEAKER_02 2:45:15

Yeah, we good. We just need to get the teens out the streets because that's that's looking crazy and shit. Y'all hang out, but don't be running on the cars and shit, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 2:45:24

And that's what I mean.

SPEAKER_02 2:45:25

Whoever, whoever is niggas, don't hurt civilian people, all that other shit is fake anyway. Man, you want to tear up the malls and all that shit. That shit fake.

SPEAKER_00 2:45:35

No, don't do don't do none of that, don't do none of that because they got insurance, but they but them cops ain't gonna give a fuck.

SPEAKER_02 2:45:42

But them cops, and that's the thing.

SPEAKER_00 2:45:43

No, don't do none of that shit. This is this is so this is the plan, this is what they want. They want the youth to act a fool because that weap the politicians weaponize that to create more problems for all of us. So don't don't fall for the okay don't. Don't play into the role that the society wants you to play, because ultimately we all lose, and you're gonna lose the most because I've already I've already had my youth and I live my youth. I'm in my prime right now, and I'm good, I'm Gucci, but you want to get to your prime and you want to be Gucci, yes. So so think about the long-term effects of what you're doing, and again, if you got a craft that you should be like working on, rather than just being out in the street just to be seen, if you get your craft together, you're gonna be seen in a much better, more linear way.

SPEAKER_02 2:46:36

You garner more success, more appreciation, and you're leaving a legacy that's worth it.

SPEAKER_00 2:46:42

Y'all niggas tours of the art museum. Go to the go go to the art museum and learn about different artists and see if one of those styles is something you resonate with that you can do. Go to the go to the museum of science and industry and see if there's a world that you might be interested in that you could participate in or learn about for a career. It's that y'all could be doing somebody. That's what I'm saying. Let's find out who's the organizer.

SPEAKER_02 2:47:11

You could go pull up, get exposed to some of this free shit. We even talk about the art world and all that shit and the galleries and things that's going on. So there's a ton of resources in the city that you're gonna use. You're gonna be out, then use the time. Stop wasting your time. If you want the god power, you can't waste your time. Goku didn't waste any time to get the god power. He's training and all this all day, every day. You know, I mean, you want the god power, you got to go and be the gods, and gods don't waste time, you know. I mean, these guys don't even believe time is a man-made construct, so the guys don't even believe in this shit. They too busy being making it, they too busy making it happen. So that that's on that note, man. That's that's what we're gonna do. That's the rather fly nerve group. We are the host of uh this lovely podcast. We are the tour guides of this um excursion through the black culture and all cultures in between and the multiverses of culture. Um great man, thank you for tuning in. Thank you for sharing, supporting. Um, all my heads out there that's um really rapping and loving what we're doing. We're gonna keep it moving, you know. I'm saying I'm Cosmo Galactus, F N I C, Flying Earth in Charge, the shift leader.

SPEAKER_00 2:48:28

And I am Ambi Warhol of the Ambi Warhol show, writer, creator, director, and true and living god at that.

unknown 2:48:36

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 2:48:37

Hey, shout out to the guards that had and the earth that had the um they had a cipher in a park last weekend that I could not make it to. I will be at the next one.

SPEAKER_02 2:48:46

Yeah, they promoting it was something. Um, it was something I saw. They got something something going on. The guys got something cooking too. So that's what I'm saying. You want to tap into culture, you can do it, and only the real niggas do it. We we announce this, but real motherfuckers pull up, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, they just live it like the shit you talking about. People, the real guys just pull up because it's just that time, you know. I mean, we ain't gotta say shit. The real motherfuckers gonna be there. We just doing that for the people who's unaware and want to hang out, y'all know what's going on, yeah. Know what's going on, so nah, we good. Um oh Disney, you said Disney ain't using AI, but you're gonna see more Stan Lee in future uh Marvel features because uh Disney agreed to use AI or Stan Lee images and shit like that. And more agreed. Yeah, well, his state agree, whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:49:46

So I can see that because that that that generates income for them.

SPEAKER_02 2:49:49

Yeah, it generates income. So you know it is what it is. So um, yeah, man. Any uh that's that's it. No, that's it. It's a little bit too old for the prom scammers. Hey, stop scamming people for prime justice. That's cruel.

SPEAKER_00 2:50:04

That's a whole nother level of what man listen. That's cruel that once again. You know, if you this is, and I don't condone violence, but I do condone street justice or chin checks. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like some things, you know, talking ain't enough. When you taking food out of people's mouths at the at the at the level that gas prices are right now, you taking food out of people's mouths or taking clothes off their back, yeah, yeah. Whatever come, whatever justice comes your way, oh you gotta eat it.

SPEAKER_02 2:50:40

And young men, dude. I seen this thing online too, man. You little insecure kids, man. Find something to do, find some my find some people, find some older gods and shit around, man. There's this thing where I seen where kids is hammering their face. What? And they're like using hammers to chisel their face, bro. So it's like, you know, what they're using these little techniques of shattering their um bones, jaw bones and shit, yeah, jaw structure, whatever. So some kids is doing it, and then they're fracturing themselves, their face is caving in, they're shit, and it's just these little immature little, you know, it's a soft society, man. I don't know what happened to the milk. What happened to the milk? I'm trying to understand the visualization of what you're saying, but no, like kids who's not sad, who's not content with their facial or insecure and shit, they're getting hammers and they're doing like a little self-reconstructive surgery by knocking in the finger features and making shit, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 2:51:45

So you plastic surgeons make makes make millions of dollars on that, and they just going off the off the cuff. What the fuck? The fuck is it? So I see see this is an idle mind is the devil's playground.

SPEAKER_02 2:52:00

Yeah, devil, yep, yep, yep, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:52:02

When we are left with nothing to do, yeah, we will do whatever.

SPEAKER_02 2:52:07

But if you're insecure with nothing's to do, then that becomes body mutilation, that becomes something that you're causing on yourself, and um, yeah, I don't know what results you're looking for. I don't even know where that comes from. I mean then if something serious happened, if you get into a fight or something, you are your shit is already getting hairline fractures and whatnot. Yeah, hairline, you damaging yourself, man.

SPEAKER_00 2:52:32

It's like I didn't I ain't even heard of no shit like this.

SPEAKER_02 2:52:35

Nah, this this is yeah, it's a thing, it's a thing.

SPEAKER_00 2:52:38

No, thank you.

SPEAKER_02 2:52:39

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Y'all raising nothing like that. I don't make sure y'all raising the healthy, aware kids, put y'all kids on game, put y'all kids on knowledge, you know, put y'all kids on shit. I know it's a tough world out here. You trying to maintain the life and trying to raise your families, but put in the good work for your children, man. Don't let them go out here like that. Don't let them riding on stumping on niggas' cars, too, man, because that ain't cool. Yeah, have the conversations early because they're about to get out of school. Yeah, they're about to get out of school. So, this is the prime time to really sit down with your kids and get to know these key motherfuckers.

SPEAKER_00 2:53:16

Y'all brought them here, and and the truth of the matter is, whatever they doing is because you lack discipline within yourself.

SPEAKER_03 2:53:24

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 2:53:25

So this is they they they just carried on tradition, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:53:28

They just carrying because they don't know no better, or just knowing, like it's just weird.

SPEAKER_00 2:53:32

Yeah, they got that from you, they got that. You know what you was you know what you was capable of when you was younger, and now your kid is doing it because you're not disciplined them.

SPEAKER_02 2:53:40

Yeah, keep that discipline on I was at the freak naked joking and shit.

SPEAKER_00 2:53:44

Oh, at the at the jack and jill parties, that's where all these kids was born from, and that's why they ain't got no motherfucking discipline. Let's be 100. That's why I'm saying, like, parents have to parent, and that starts with when the kid is young, put them in constructive courses that give them a craft that they can have something to do. But if you spend your entire young years as a kid on an iPad on a video game system, or your phone all day, what the fuck? I don't know how to do nothing. Yeah, so now when I'm bored, what do I do? Let me go.

SPEAKER_02 2:54:27

And had these young niggas, they couldn't spell, they can't write, and they don't know what cursive looks like. It's a lot of things behind, yeah. And see, and that's not that's kind of y'all's fault, too. Because I mean, y'all should be doing research. You got this shit on your phone, man.

SPEAKER_00 2:54:43

Doing have to reinforce everything at home. Like, there's a reason why they called it homework. Homework was not so that the kid could do the homework in lunchroom so he can come home and do nothing. Homework was so that they can have the reinforcement from the parent so that they understand that the parent and the teacher are in it together, so that they know there ain't no trick that you can pull. You ain't gonna be able to pull one on over with the parent if the parent know what the homework is, if the parent know what's going on, if the parent can comprehend what the teacher is saying. When the when the parent doesn't know what's going on, it's easy to deceive the parent. And the parent thinks, my baby, good, your baby bad as shit.

SPEAKER_02 2:55:18

Bad as shit, you don't have no level of discipline yourself, you don't have discipline, so you can't teach discipline because the difference of good and bad, your damn self, because you you blinded with it, you know. You think the kid is okay, but this motherfucker is a menace out here in these streets.

SPEAKER_00 2:55:36

It's on us to as the adults. Like, we gotta get back to to snatching up these cats. I have no problem talking to them kids when I used to be on the train. Like, hey man, sit your ass down. We ain't doing that.

SPEAKER_02 2:55:48

We ain't doing all these kids on the train. You haven't been on the red line lately, man. I ain't and don't be walking through these trains no more. It's not safe. It's not safe. What don't be walking through these train carts anymore. More man, hey man, you might walk into a pile of human shit. It's not safe to walk through these trains, man. You see a pile of human stinking human shit.

SPEAKER_03 2:56:14

Like this ain't dog shit.

SPEAKER_02 2:56:15

This is from Elroy back here, man. Stop. The trains is different, man. Hey man, be careful on these trains. Don't be stopping these kids because these motherfuckers got pistols and all types of things.

SPEAKER_00 2:56:28

There's ways, it's ways to talk to the kids, and you can't be afraid.

SPEAKER_02 2:56:31

Well, you gotta go.

SPEAKER_00 2:56:32

Don't mean you gotta go. You ain't going at them for a fight, you going at them on some on some.

SPEAKER_02 2:56:36

Oh well, knowledge shit, but yeah, of course. Okay, you ain't going with you ain't going at them on some argument trying to punch all your um disciplines and showing you know who you what you stand on. Ain't no one gonna fuck with you anyway. I was just joking.

SPEAKER_00 2:56:49

Nah, but nah, but but it but I've but so because here's but the but you write about the the pile of the pile of shit. You write about I literally like you know, remember when I first when I had got my car? Remember when I bought the act? Yeah, it was because I was on the train and this chick was sitting next to me. She got up, went to the back of the I was in the middle, she went to the back, squatted right next to people, made the whole shit shift because she just started pissing, and the poop puddle started rolling as the train was rocking and moving. And now and I watched her kind of wipe some drip and then she grabbing on rails as she walking back to sit down, and now her shoes are stained, her she got a little stain on her on her clothes, and so I went and got that car that next weekend.

SPEAKER_04 2:57:41

Yeah, dude.

SPEAKER_00 2:57:42

That was when I went, I was like, nah, I'm good. See, like I ain't worried about the kids on the train. I ain't they I mean, trained a little bit, so I ain't worried about them violently, yeah, and I ain't worried about them anyway because they just need a proper talking to when I was a kid. The the heads talk to me, and you gotta know how to talk to kids, but this shit right there, these grown niggas, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:58:01

That's the these weirdos, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:58:04

The mentally health challenge motherfuckers that one of my staff, one of my staff said somebody was masturbating to her on the train. She had to get off the car because he wouldn't stop, so she had to get off. Like, nah, and when the police are sitting there patrolling with these dogs looking for whatever they're looking for. What are they looking for? I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 2:58:26

I've never seen them get anything.

SPEAKER_02 2:58:31

And they walk around and look and see, okay, everything cool.

SPEAKER_03 2:58:37

He's playing seven up in the so in the so-up, dude. What the fuck is wrong with you? Like they're I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 2:58:45

They're not security, they're not deep, they're not protecting anything. They don't stop any of the bullshit from happening because they're not actually on the train. It's a very weird concept. It's it's like it's all all for political imagery, it's for show.

SPEAKER_02 2:58:59

You know what? Our little endeavors, what we've been dealing with. Um, yeah, there's a lot of for show shit that goes on in the politics. It'd just be like them TV shows, like, oh damn, this shit was freaking a lot of this shit. Nobody really gives a fuck about nothing. No one give a fuck, and you know the camera is more powerful than the motherfuckers that has the power.

SPEAKER_00 2:59:22

Yeah, because the photo op of me kissing the baby, but missing me stealing his lollipop. See what I'm saying? That's that's the thing. The photo op, like you can you can take that's what they talk about manipulation of the photo. It ain't always change doctor in the photo, but it's the fact that the photo only captures what you're trying to capture, and it don't show what was happening in the moment.

SPEAKER_02 2:59:44

The context is missing, and that's where you get into your own, you build a story from seeing the photo because you don't know what actually happened at this event. You wasn't there, of course. Nope.

SPEAKER_00 2:59:54

So he threw the baby right in the water after hugging it. Yeah, right now he he was tossing that shit, like no, uh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:00:02

Next, don't believe it, don't believe the hype. Don't believe none of this shit, man. But believe the flyner group, because we here to instill the trust in y'all, at least the truth in y'all. At least that's what I try to do. If I got something wrong, then it's up to y'all. It's a community, it's community of trust. How about that, man? Community of truth and trust. So, um, nah, man, it's been a pleasure. Um, yeah, we'll be back once we got more shit to talk about. How about that? We don't do. I see you other podcasters. It's a rap, man. Chill out, man. Chill out, man. You ain't gotta do this shit. Just we come back when it's time. When it's the fly node time, we don't even know what time it's. Oh yeah. You hear it? Oh no, you got some micro. That's it. Yo, yo, the final boss.

SPEAKER_03 3:00:56

All titles get tossed. Six box like micro stalks, a line you shouldn't cross. Intelligent perspective, the lecture's electric with frequent things. They can't be mapping any matrix.

SPEAKER_02 3:01:06

Shut down the rhetoric, the holidays are pathetic. Fly nerve standards, we stand on the aesthetics. Face your face, rearrange the cosmetics in the gambit. If I'm charge, the car call kinetic.

SPEAKER_00 3:01:17

Positive energetic, the fly nerf perspective, inflective, mind detective. We all the car reflected. Accept it or rejected, but he's said it. You reflected podcasts, calls you headed with no requesting. Detecting comments, the panthers in fertilizoil, we played a seeds that we props to rejected. Every deck is good for the lead direction. You can test them if you inspect it, they're professor.

SPEAKER_05 3:01:40

We dropped in a bottle, crushing all galaxies in the middle of the test. Now what we gonna do next, better bring me along. Every on the cards all called the digital on. We have the center for the cultural killing all the stars. Welcome to the ceremony, it's the change of the cards. We're still recording hey, we're gonna get it.

SPEAKER_03 3:02:29

Until we meet again.