S4 Ep 13: The Life and Times of Doo Rag Thragg

It’s time for the naysayers to be quiet! Doo Rag Thragg is upon us and he ain’t playing with y’all. Talk about his voice all you want. Bet you won’t say it to his face! Just ask Mark. Meanwhile, Kingpin has officially taken the gloves off and the world is about to catch them hands! It’s WFNG Fly Nerd Radio!!!

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SPEAKER_01 0:00

What's his name? He calls himself Don't worry about those prototypes. You're going to be different. You're going to be beautiful.

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You're going to be in There's only one person I know who might be able to go toe-to-toe with Omni Man and come out on top, Debbie.

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No.

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No, never. Can't. Where's Mark, Debbie? Where's I truly hope Mark lives up to his name. To face his father and survive, he'll need to be one, two, one, two.

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Ladies and gentlemen, gentlemen, ladies of Flyner to Nerds, you are now in tune too.

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The freshest podcast for the universe.

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Period.

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That album um still holds still holds value.

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Yeah.

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It ain't it ain't it has not deteriorated in terms of listening value. Like that L is dope. As it should. You know, a lot of things you hear it, you get, you know, like I'm gonna be honest with you. Um I haven't gone back to the Smith and Wesson. I mean, I still have in my head Crave McGraw, you know, like but Yeah, I I still like that particular song. And I like their first single. I like I like The Elephant in the Room. I like the album, but it's just like the difference of like I repeatedly still go back over the last two years, LL's release, Commons release. Um I dabble in um that lupe release. Uh like sometimes I get I in them I'm in a mood, even though um it's not top lupe in terms of like production and and presentation. It's it's it's a very intricate, it's a very intimate album for lupe. It's dope, but it's I still go back to it occasionally. But like I haven't had any desire to go back. Okay, so other than Day Law, I didn't even I haven't even gone back to the mob deep. I'm sure I will. I just haven't been in a I haven't hit that vibe yet.

SPEAKER_07 2:27

I went back to the mob deep. I went back to uh Day La. Yeah, I stayed Day La, but I Nas, I haven't gone back to W F N G. I haven't gone back to Nas, but if I hear it, uh you know I ain't opposed to it.

SPEAKER_02 2:43

I'm not mad at it. I just I'm just saying in terms of like like when that that that that motivation, like let me play this again. I want to feel that. I want to hear that right now. Like I ain't had the moments with most of that. With most of that, like the ASAP Rocky album. I um actually J J I D's last album. J I D, I go back.

SPEAKER_07 3:05

Um I still fuck with it's a it's I go back to the red man. I go back to uh it's a few albums, you know. Um Freddie Gibbs, I go back to that because um can't you mean the best Chicago on the best Chicago rapper list? And he check all the boxes, he mark all the categories, he do it all, right? Yeah, I guess, yeah, but um music dropped, which is dope, which is fine, but is it you know, right? Is it revisitable?

SPEAKER_02 3:43

Yeah, it's it's interesting, like like to quote um Master Ace. It's a lot of disposals. I go back to the clips, disposable arts, yeah. I go back to the clips.

SPEAKER_07 3:53

The clips is uh it was on Coachella Coachella, Coachillin.

SPEAKER_02 3:59

Coachella, Coachillin. So um Yeah, but disposable arts. But um, we was talking about um the Super Sounds compilation release that just dropped. Um whole project produced by Don D and Original Super Leather. I'm cracking up because I'm listening to the album and I've heard the album a couple of times, and then like I'm still like we was over there with Ty, and then he was like, Oh yeah, I got a couple of joints on there when we was at the um the listeners party, right? And when he said that, I was like, No, you don't. And then I was like, Oh yeah, he does because it's Taiwan Davis, and then there's a Donald Mayhem track on there, yeah. So I was like, you know, my brain was like, what the fuck? Yeah, he got two different um, two different versions of himself.

SPEAKER_07 4:51

Uh that's how he wrote. He got mad at me one time because we was doing an interview. I was saying the project was produced by Taiwan Davis in particular, but it's and uh is not, and he actually got mad, yeah. Like he got mad, man. Like, oh my bad, bro. He's like, I didn't produce that shit, it was produced by the girl, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:12

Like, oh man, look, all right, I'm not trying to keep up with all of your yeah, I ain't with all the uh look, Sybil, like whoever you are, yeah.

SPEAKER_09 5:22

Look, Mr.

SPEAKER_11 5:23

Jesus or whoever you are, like who you are. I don't know, because that was wild.

SPEAKER_07 5:33

A nice little diorama, yeah. Cause you know, I got the sent Sentinel, so you know I had to do an X-Men action sequence, and then I have to uh I laid them out flat so all the X-Men is like posing around to take it taking down Sentinel and shit. So it's pretty dope.

SPEAKER_02 5:50

Man, the talk of the town, the X-Men and like this trailer for Doomsday.

SPEAKER_07 5:56

Uh yeah, man. They they it's CinemaCon was last week, ladies and gents, and um, a lot of trailers, a lot of things dropped from there from Godzilla minus uh zero, which is pretty plaudible. Yeah, I can't wait to see that. Um and and the couple other trailers, but yeah, let's just stick to the topic. You said Doomsday, yeah. Doomsday is uh definitely coming, and um, I don't know, man. I heard some good things. I mean, some people seen the trailer and talked about it from frame to frame of what they saw, so pretty much what they say is true. Yeah, if what they say is true, then we in for well, I did hear one thing. Um that uh meonear, the Mioneer, and that the fact that uh yeah, we may be getting Victor Von Dune. Like we probably ain't got nothing to worry about.

SPEAKER_02 6:55

I I already see, I would I knew it because there's no reason to bring in Robert Downey Jr. to act.

SPEAKER_07 7:00

But I thought this we all thought the storyline would be some stark-related um type of nonsense or multiverse thing, but nah, this ain't the case. I didn't think he's talking in the accent, he's talking in the accent, he he's very different. Um, you could look and he's wearing the mask, so you can't like see him, but you can see in the eyes. Acting is eye acting, you know. Like I said before, Heath Ledger was perfect with the eye acting because you could tell a story with your eyes if you do it right. So um, he's on that, you know. He he gotta perform through this mask, and um yeah, heard he's actually doom, doomy, doom, doomsday, doom a only way to bring doom is to bring doom.

SPEAKER_02 7:45

If you do it any other way, they're not gonna ruin what is considered one of the greatest villains of all villains in all you know what I'm saying? Yeah, like this guy is higher ranked than Thanos, you know what I'm saying? Like, this is the guy, he's the guy.

SPEAKER_09 7:59

I love him. I love him.

SPEAKER_02 8:00

This guy is so dope that he's that he's not only did he spawn uh um the ultimate MC persona, um, but this guy, like, think about just the like whenever they show Doom on like the Marvel animations, or anytime, like when they show Doom on Um on that on the video game where I forgot the name of that video game was, but it was the when Marvel's Marvel's joined in, like it's like the online game where everybody running around and the and the world and the environment shrinks, and you oh so like Marvel Ultimate Alliance and shit like that.

SPEAKER_07 8:32

It was something like that. Um speaking of that game, Marvel Ultimate Alliance. There is a scene where Dr. Doom he gets busy with all the motherfuckers like from Colossus, he will be he put him down, he put down Wolverine, like he put down the squad, like Doom can't touch, he could touch everybody, he could touch everybody, he got something for everybody insane, and so we're talking Thanos with infinity gauntlet and all the stones, but he don't have none of that.

SPEAKER_02 9:03

He don't need this guy's iron man and Doctor Strange combined into one put together, and that's really dangerous force, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 9:13

Like she got magic and technology, so they was putting it all together in Ironheart, where everybody was shitting on about putting the magic and technology, but they introduced the stages for you to see that visually already, because that's what it is, it's a combination of both the magic and so once you see is unstoppable. He got spells that can shield and reverse things, and then he got missiles and lasers and all types of technology in that suit. Hey, then he got Doombots to suit the armor around the world, and he got Doombots, so he is playing an alternate version of Iron Man. It makes sense if this actor wants to proceed with this character because he played them really indirectly, indirectly already, so he already know how to perform through the suits and make it characteristics and stuff. I mean, doom is Stark with the safety off, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:11

Yeah, he's unrestrained. Like, if Stark had did not have the moral conundrums of obligation, like Doom's moral position is me and my then y'all. Well, me, Latveria, then y'all, yeah. Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, you know, like he'll do anything for Lat Veria, he'll do any for anything for anybody who's a part of his subject. Yeah, if you're one of his subjects, he will he will do it all. But other than that, you get these hands, you get these hands, dude. And what you want, what you want, which way you want? Yeah, he'll put you on your ass and be like, Why why attack Doom?

SPEAKER_07 10:46

Yeah, why are you okay? Like, what's wrong with you? Uh, you so, nevertheless, this trailer is coming out soon. Um, you know, but that's the buzz, that's the buzz, man. This doomsday is really popping, and a lot of other Marvel characters is meeting up and um grouping up and teaming up against this disaster. I don't think Doom is the disaster, it's this multiverse.

SPEAKER_02 11:10

Doom is the hero in this one, and he's gonna be the villain in the next one.

SPEAKER_07 11:13

Yeah, he's gonna be the villain in the next one. It's the multiverse crashing.

SPEAKER_02 11:16

So a lot of these gonna be the guy that brings everybody together, and then he's gonna go too far as he do, yeah, and then they're gonna have to um bring down Emperor God Emperor Doom. Yeah, you have to put him bring us down in that row.

SPEAKER_07 11:30

Calm down, calm down, son. Take it easy. Yeah, so um, along with that, uh super hype trailer that I'm geeked over, man.

SPEAKER_02 11:40

Um, dropped as well, and that's uh I do get oh you get and no you get that just took all the fear the thunder away from that damn Mortal Kombat 2 trailer, and that's the thing because that's what it's supposed to do.

SPEAKER_07 11:58

It's the original, it's the original until we talk about Street Fighter, man.

SPEAKER_02 12:02

Street Fighter, it came and it's doing all the real shit. You got Ken attacking the car, yeah, and wilding. Yo, this is post, this is second-tier Ken. This is next gen Ken. He's already got his fame, fame, and he, you know, he's wilding.

SPEAKER_07 12:18

He got the long hair, goofy. So he's the goofy, wealthy kid that knows how to fight, and you know, it's like a Logan Paul or some shit, you know.

SPEAKER_02 12:27

Literally, literally playing on that.

SPEAKER_07 12:29

Yeah, so it's like, you know, he rich kid, got his money, he got his wealth, he living it up, and it takes place in the 90s, too. So they had the hint of MTV and doing like the MTV. Remember, they used to do the pool house, yeah, yeah, all that type of stuff, concerts and shit like that. So, yeah, they it got that little style going on. The shooting is real funky. I like it. It's like what you say, it's like a grindhouse film, so it's real deep color, like the colors is very yeah, very dead.

SPEAKER_02 13:00

Beauty colors in in one in one spectrum, but then the bright colors are ultra like bright, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 13:05

Oh, just like ultra purple, violet, and you know what I mean to make it look video gamey, yeah. Video gamey. So let's get into that, man. A lot of people, a few people complain and say it, but it do look goofy, it do look too campy. Fucking Street Fighter, the Street Fighter. So I respond, I'm like, hey, so beating up a car for points is serious, like you took that serious. Like, no, it's serious, it's street super martial arts in here. Let it let it breathe, bro.

SPEAKER_02 13:35

These are the cats that never watched the um samurai Sundays and the Kung Fu specials, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 13:40

The movies was goofy and serious, goofy, campy, and serious at the same time when he had to be. We don't know the full plot, man. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 13:48

Relax, nope, because Ryu is gonna be the serious character, of course, and that's what it looked like.

SPEAKER_07 13:52

Because Raul showed up, he's real stoic, real stoic, and yeah, but real cool. But he know the shit, he's dodging Ken, like nah, I'm Raul. He was like I like that dynamic already.

SPEAKER_02 14:06

Yep, it's it's the it's this the story. All the elements of the characterization is there. If like for people who have all the people that know the story and know everything about it from the video games know how they are, and Ryu is the very serious, he takes everything too personal, and everything is like you know, I gotta be the I gotta be the best, you know. And and Ken, on the other hand, is arrogant, he thinks he's the best, but he don't even necessarily he flashy, you know, right? And so them two in a room together, it would look like that. Like Ken would be talking a lot of shit, and Ryu would just be like, bro, just fight, just fight. Just give me the hands, bro.

SPEAKER_07 14:42

Chill out, you know, yeah. All right, pop here. Sit your ass down, sit your goofy. I told you now, sit your ass down, shit. But they but think about they trained, they came up together because Akuma and this bitch, so yeah, they trained together, they came up together, they like brothers. So, you know, it's it's like you know, it's the contrast of brothers. If you have a little brother, it's kind of like QB and Riley, you know, Raoul and Ken. They they the perfect duo, and don't get it twisted when they get together and with them hands, you got a problem. Well, you got a problem with either or two, but yeah, they team up on your ass. Nah, you don't want them issues, man. Chill the fuck out, man. Chill out, yeah. But they the they're the number one duo in video gaming storylines, period. It starts with raw and ken. If you a video game head, it started with Street Fighter, and you know Raoul and Ken before all these other motherfuckers and Tekken or all these. Then they go to double dragon after that. Yeah, you go and then yeah, okay, Billy and Jimmy, Jimmy Lee. They need to re-enact. I hope they make a move, you know, they've never but same style.

SPEAKER_02 15:49

I want the same goofy, you know, side scrolling esque, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_07 15:54

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:56

Actually, that's a good idea.

SPEAKER_07 15:57

But um, all the cast is in Street Fighter. Um, except Sagitt. Some people say Sagat wasn't um shown yet.

SPEAKER_02 16:05

Um, so the question is, would Shag would he be needed in the very first movie? I think you need to save him.

SPEAKER_07 16:15

You can save him because that guy shows up, it's like it's over. It's over, it's over for everyone because he used to actually ultimate final boss, you know. I mean, like get on my nerves, even on street fighter. Yeah, dude. He do that Tiger Uppercut, and he does the 15 hit with oh, yeah, nah. So all them sound effects, all the movies, you hear them in there, all the fighting moves, like a little background like action with like crazy stuff in the stuff here. People say this shit is serious, like oh, it looks goofy. Street Fighter, like, have you played the game? This is what happens in the game, everything is animated in the back. You got the fighting chasing chickens in the back, yeah, niggas chasing chickens. Like, come on, come on, nigga in the fucking sauna duking it up, right? Like, you gotta fucking sauna nigga.

SPEAKER_02 17:09

You got a sumo, you got a big ass sumo wrestler going up against a boxer that looked like Mike Tyson, right? And that's normal.

SPEAKER_07 17:17

That's normal, like that's supposed to be serious, like that's serious.

SPEAKER_02 17:21

Where would that ever happen?

SPEAKER_07 17:22

Like I know the fight scene's gonna be credible because these martial arts is in there. Even Roman Roman Reigns said um that uh the three actors who is uh Raul Chun Lee. Chen Lee is in there. I think she a cop, I think she put this all together to uh you know fight down uh Shadow Law from uh young bison in there. Yep. So um she was fighting Vega in there, she was kicking Vega face in and in the um, do and do an all signature move at Cammy. She was going at Cammy. I think Cammy is gonna be uh on your bison side, but uh, you know, she she in it. Um, the way they showed the angle of Zangif doing his triple goodness, yeah. You see, like the camera is bird's eye, so he comes up to the camera and then he goes down and the camera follows him. That's so different, you know, cinematic way to put these moves together because you want to shoot at the dope cinematically, you see it vertically horizontally already, so you know how the how the shit goes, but seeing on these different little camera angles, I wasn't ready for that one.

SPEAKER_02 18:30

Zangee doing them moves was like, Oh my goodness, how would everybody survive?

SPEAKER_07 18:37

Oh, I look like I'm about to get fucked up. Like, oh my god. So if you freeze frame or what they call an impact frame, the fucking uh game, the characters be in the same goofy position, dude. Like, this is all the video games. So, um, this director he directed a lot of the Eric Um Andre show. So this is this is him directing it. Eric Andre is in the movie as well, and um, I don't know, it may be an action comedy, you know.

SPEAKER_02 19:07

I mean, like it may be goofy on purpose because this guy, you know, it's wild, it's supposed to be it's gonna be see, like a grindhouse feature was designed to be like you don't know what they're gonna show. It's a grindhouse double feature. You show up and whatever comes on, but it the goal is that whatever they put on is gonna entertain you, and it's for anybody, so it's usually random shit going on in the genre, it's random things happening, so it may be funny, it may be serious, it may be gory, and it may be all of that, you know. So this is very much in that lane, and you know, I think I think the internet got people a little bit too polarized, as we always say, because you know, imagine these people who are on the internet talking, seeing a trailer for the mummy returns. You know, they would tear that movie apart. Yeah, the old mummy returns, they would tear that movie apart. That movie would never like we would if the first mummy came out the way people talk now, we would have never got a sequel. Because and and the mummy returns is one of the most hilarious action films, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, like but people don't understand entertainment. It's movies are not actually supposed to be serious unless they're in the serious category of thriller or drama, right? But an action movie, you know, action movies.

SPEAKER_07 20:30

I mean, Street Fighter is goofy and corny, but that's what carried the trope, and that's what's part of video. That's the genius of video games, is that you know, fuck a movie. I could turn on this game and beat your ass, you know. I mean, like, that's the point of it all. Like, yeah, I could we get on here and we get to the point, but the story is always goofy and corny. It's not our story, this is from Capcom, this is Japan, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 20:56

Yeah, and we know how they get down. We know how they get down. They get down that way, it's the most serious story, and in the middle of that serious story, a teardrop is showing, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_07 21:09

Random, like just some goofy, something goofy showing that's just them, yeah. So that's just how it is. So I I'm all for it. There's a lot of people are excited over it, and um, yeah, it kind of overshadows Mortal Kombat a little bit, but um, hey, Mortal Kombat tricked us, so hey, yeah, they they tricked us last that boy back too, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:30

So you know they didn't have put him in that first trailer on purpose, and then yeah, he's still in the movies, still in the movie, man.

SPEAKER_07 21:36

So they yeah, they got it. You tricked me once and tricked me again, but Street Fighter could trick me because I mean there's nothing. I ain't gonna guarantee this movie gonna be good, but you know, because a lot uh people don't like the invison. Like, see again, they think there should have been someone nah.

SPEAKER_02 21:56

We ain't seen him in action yet and And bison, if you really pay attention to the original, even though they had him big, it's a man in a fucking suit. Like a military suit. He's a regular dude. He just whoops everybody ass. Yeah. And he got power. So it's like I'm not worried about. And I think that was always the key because it's not coincidence that every time they do a Street Fighter movie, M. Bison is a regular ass dude. That's true. So there must be something to the story. And I always thought that M. Bison was just a regular dude with power. He's not like it's not just fighting for him, it's also he got some extra powers. Yeah, you got it.

SPEAKER_07 22:33

And that's what makes him a badass. And he could clone people, and he got you know different artillery versus before he even laid a hand. He already got you couldn't touch him. Like I used to hate fighting his ass.

SPEAKER_05 22:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 22:47

Oh, it took a long time to beat on bison, boy. Oh my goodness, I used to hate on bison. Ah, but anyway.

SPEAKER_02 22:55

But yeah, that um, but no, all of that to say, with all the movies that are coming out, like we complain about the wrong things at the wrong time. Like, this is a time to just like there's so many movies. Just focus on the movie you want to see, man. Like, yeah, just focus on the movie you want to see. Like this is enough for everyone. Like, we don't be sitting around, like, imagine if this podcast was us sitting around only talking about movies we don't want to see. Think about how stupid that would be. Oh man, this new trailer, I don't want to see that. It looks bad. Oh, I don't want to see that movie. Yeah, you see how terrible it looks. Like, that's the whole fucking podcast of just just talking about all the movies we don't want to see.

SPEAKER_07 23:33

Yeah, that's that's that's very weird. Yeah, that's the uh two motherfuckers off the Muppets, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:40

Yeah, like who wanna start when it and those guys are from trading places, yeah. Right, right. Like no matter and stuff. I don't want to be that like, but this is what cats are online. They the majority of their dialogue and their monologue and their whole narrative is what they don't like and what's gonna suck and what's wrong.

SPEAKER_07 23:59

But then when the ship show improves and bust your motherfucking head, the first one changing change, you changing ships. I'm waiting for some of you motherfuckers that was talking shit about motherfucking invincible and do rag thrag. I see you motherfuckers got quiet real quick. Oh, you got quiet.

SPEAKER_09 24:20

His voice is not the clean.

SPEAKER_11 24:22

Remember, that's not the voice in my head.

SPEAKER_09 24:25

It's not the voice in my head. He's weak.

SPEAKER_07 24:28

He just turned a grabbed skull and said, No, okay, okay, do rag thrag showed up and I told you about the do-rag clean house with with minimal effort for school, do rag thrag, showed up.

SPEAKER_02 24:45

Hey, he dragon balled the all of them. He dragon balled them.

SPEAKER_07 24:50

That's we had them looking shook. This is the first time I seen Nolan look worried. Nolan was scared. Mark that scene where Mark was flying and trying to escape, and this motherfucker just easily popped after he said, I killed Conquest, and I'll kill you too. Now, pause on that. Pin a pen on that. Now, when he said that, you know what who got someone's attention.

SPEAKER_11 25:18

Oh, she said, um, she said, Oh, she was like, You didn't want I like that, ain't you? I liked it.

SPEAKER_09 25:26

Yeah, and I like that. I watch you.

SPEAKER_07 25:30

Oh my goodness, Anissa. If y'all know the comic book, Anissa, she gets what she wants, so uh, she definitely seen the interest in Mark when he said that. She was like, Okay, I got it.

SPEAKER_02 25:41

She has an intro, interesting, um, overall arc. Yeah, like where she ends up versus where she started, even though you know it's something that Thrag said in this movie that was really dope. When he was talking to um to Nolan, and Nolan was like, Mine, you you attacked my boys, and he was like, Man, we was just testing your son, like we've always done. Yeah, we test everyone, he was never in danger.

SPEAKER_07 26:06

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We was never gonna kill him, like you know, we just want to make sure that he one of us, and that's the thing, they was just testing the grounds to see if he was down and if he was part of the team, and see, okay, the whole venture mite thing, I think, is crazy because it is survival of the fittest, only the strong survive, right? So, you're gonna test your seed, you want to test everyone who the strongest out in this motherfucker. Um, but that theory could get kind of cloudy to me, man, because you know, all right, you're out to conquer, you conquer in the universe, you go to these planets to conquer them, and um, you know, re you know fuck them and you know, make your versions of them trying to find like the versions to reproduce. Oh, yeah, yeah, to reproduce because y'all ain't really doing it with each other, y'all doing it with um other versions, other species and shit. Okay, you're doing that, but then you put you said so many wars to yourself, so Thadis, he created the virus, killed millions and millions of ventramites, and after that, fucking do rag thrag did the purge, he's saying, All right, y'all, hey man, hey, we don't we can't we gotta make sure ain't nobody start cutting heads, cutting niggas' heads off, right? Hey yo, now y'all find out who the weakest in this, but that's the jewel, right?

SPEAKER_02 27:43

Up to that point, we had thought that the virus had reduced their numbers to 50. No, but it was thrag, drag, man. Yeah, I mean, like you think about how many died from the virus, and then you see how many he killed.

SPEAKER_07 27:56

Yeah, so it's like dude, what the fuck? Which one is which one of you is not being a Viltromite? Yeah, so Nolan stands is like, dude, look at this shit, it's gone. Like, dude, we lost.

SPEAKER_11 28:09

It's like 40 of us now, like and we beat ourselves ultimately, and you beat yourselves, it was all infighting, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 28:16

Because even Thaddeus is a Voltramite, and he's trying to wipe out all of them, so he owns some even Mark and Oliver. So it's like, dude, it's a lot of shit. So a little um tip or a little side note, you know, uh Megatron and Optimus Prime was in his episode episode. Yes. Um, Thaddeus is uh Peter Cullen, and um, what was his name? General Welker, yeah. Well, Frank Welker, he was uh I don't remember what his name was.

SPEAKER_05 28:50

I don't remember his name.

SPEAKER_07 28:53

Where uh the young Thaddeus was talking to uh to the young younger uh do rag thrag. The planet was that's he's do rag thrag. He hey, you know, I'm for the villain. You know, I'm for the villain. He got the fade, perfect fade. He got the waves. This nigga too cool. All y'all niggas say, Oh, he's nice.

SPEAKER_02 29:16

Tell me he got the humble park cut.

SPEAKER_07 29:18

He got the humble park special humble park number five. Two rag thrag, man. Durag thrag ain't no joke. When he should pull up, man. All he was doing, he was just watching niggas. He was just chilling, he was watching niggas, he was watching the fight.

SPEAKER_02 29:32

He wasn't worried about nobody, so it was nothing to fight. Again, that's why I say he dragon balled them. That's that's classic dragon ball. I'm gonna watch everybody fight, and you better not step to me.

SPEAKER_07 29:45

Better not run up. You run up, get gunned up, and guess what? All right, so when Nolan first ran up, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_05 29:55

Okay, go ahead.

SPEAKER_02 29:56

You can't jump now. Because like Nolan was the first one to throw a punch at at Thrag, and Thrag sidestepped him so softly, so casually. Like, he just I ain't worried about you.

SPEAKER_07 30:07

What are you doing? You annoying nigga. So, not only that, he sidestepped him, and then he looked at him like, Are you really doing try to fight me? Are you look? I want to talk, let's talk it out real quick. And so he knocked them down to the planet, he knocked him to the planet.

SPEAKER_02 30:23

Bah he couldn't even stop his movement, dude.

SPEAKER_07 30:28

He knocked him to the planet, bro, and had a full two conversation with him, right? He knocked them straight to the planet and was there in the flag, like he knocked them through the stratosphere to the planet, and by the time he landed, dude was right there, like so. Yeah, man. So uh look, man.

SPEAKER_02 30:46

This what let's let's let's let's let's let's work through this because we don't I don't have to hurt you.

SPEAKER_07 30:51

I don't have to, I don't want to because I'm aware of how many Vertramites there are living out here. I'm aware of this now, so I don't want to go through this with you, and you really working with the traders. Well, yeah, and I was like, like, what the fuck? Like, where like what you doing? You know, I mean, you think he's gonna look at after you when all this is said and done, yeah, and Nolan's Nolan couldn't argue. He couldn't argue, he's like, You ain't as naive as I thought, man. So, you know what we gonna do about this? He's like, Nolan still wasn't going, so dude did a wind up punch, he did a wind up punch where he slept through it. Gravity was affected with this punch, knocked his ass back to the motherfucking stratosphere where the war was at. I ain't never seen no shit like that. He said, Okay, we done. I ain't never seen no he said, no more talking. All right, and then he went back in space and motherfucking. We we outside now. We outside now, we ain't on the same side now. All right, I know where you stand, you know where I stand. Let's get it in, Oliver. Dumbass. We told Oliver stay the fuck down. We told you to stay home. You should have stayed on Earth, little boy. You're not strong enough. You a Thraxon, you you a insect, you purple. You a roach, you you ain't got the same physical structure as us to be running about here trying to throw some hands to these vulture mites, they're gonna tear you apart.

SPEAKER_02 32:30

They say he ain't even worth it.

SPEAKER_07 32:31

Conquest almost killed you. He had to save your ass. Mark had to save you from conquest. That was the one, yeah. Yeah, now this motherfucker. Nah, man, you rolled up. He said, Yeah, nah, look at your ass, and the fear they draw in these characters is amazing because you once he hit and he crushed his hand and he turned around trying to run. He said, Don't you run, don't you run for me away from me? You went to Simbad, HBO Special. Grab that motherfucker, ripped his knock, knocked his fucking jaw off, dude. Like that's and took his arm at the same time.

SPEAKER_02 33:13

Because he grabbed his arm so fast at the same time, and he told him he weak, dude.

SPEAKER_07 33:18

And Mark tried to go and save him. He grabbed Mark and swung his ass back to the space real swift. He a smooth motherfucker, man.

SPEAKER_02 33:30

But again, he tried he did not, he tried not to kill Mark yet again. He's had multiple times to kill Mark, and he won't kill him.

SPEAKER_07 33:37

He was like, Mark was like, I kill Conquest, I'll kill you. He was like, Do it, dude. Let me show me. Yeah, he said, show Mark hit him. So this is the impact. This is an impact frame, right? So I learned something new. I didn't know that was called impact frames. Impact frame, he hit him. The impact hit him so hard, the frame showed up as uh a devilish, like this was the demon version of fucking uh uh thrag. Um very dope visuals, very dope animation. Have to give credit to the team on this one, man, because they really showed their ass on this episode.

SPEAKER_02 34:12

That was the first time we saw so. What you gotta understand in that scene that wasn't about Thrag's powers, that was about Mark's powers. Had so much power in that punch that Thrag had to pull out the full his full power to defend it, and that's the part that everybody missed.

SPEAKER_07 34:31

Mark that goes over their head because I agree, I agree. Everyone thinks that's Thrag showing it, but yeah, this is what you're saying is Thrag had to shield up and because Mark, he knew Mark was gonna come with that fear, it's like you're bracing yourself for a punch, and he came with it, he had to brace himself up, you know, because Mark had it, and Mark didn't break a hand or nothing, he was just like, Ah, but he didn't break his hand.

SPEAKER_02 34:57

Mark is not a weak moment, Mark has been through the ringer. Yeah, Mark was beaten to near death by his father.

SPEAKER_07 35:03

That makes a Voltramite that much stronger, and not only that, other Voltramites too, and himself. So he had great battles and stuff so far, and um, I think they showed this power level of Thrag because Mark is gonna get on this. It's like Dragon Balls now, man. I think motherfuckers are gonna step up their energy levels and all that shit. They showing these power levels of thrag for a reason because I think Mark is gonna get on that level. Like you said, 10. If they go 10 seasons, that's enough time for them to get Mark to the older state where he's a killer, you know. I mean, like he a super killer, he's better than Nolan. So back to the fight. So he ain't the only one fighting. Alan, they had tech jacket, they had the dude with the motorcycle with the gun. That was uh that was very dope. He's like the ghost rider motherfucker. He brought them other um aliens down and he's like the ghost rider. He is a ghost rider, he's like ghost rider. Well, because he ride a bike, yep, because he ride a bike or lobo, but he ain't got no attitude like all he got is a gun.

SPEAKER_02 36:06

He ain't he hasn't demonstrated any other skill, other than that. He know how to run away in space, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 36:17

He knew how to run away because they was in space, they didn't really have a fair advantage. Even Battle Beast, he he didn't he threw some hands, he he took care of some business, but he couldn't do much because he don't he's not a he's not a he's not a space fighter, yeah. He's not a space fighter, so Alan is the one, no blood drawn from Alan because Alan Allen worked like this. Alan will take a beating, but he's actually not taking a beating just because he's taking a beating, he's learning you so he takes a beating, he gets stronger, and then his endurance build up and his intelligence build up, his fighting intelligence build up. So by the time the uh venture might start attacking him, he will start learning how their moves and he was beating two at one. Yeah, he started being two and one, and with the help of tech jacket, they had the virus, so she would spit some, she would shoot one of them, they'll get weak, and he'll just come and just finish them, finish them, one punch, one punch, finish. So Alan was doing his thing out there, like he had a that is had a whip, he had a whip, and he had a good team, but his plan was the same thing that Thrag did, which was fucking ironic. You take out the leader, and then the team will disperse. Except they didn't get to Thrag like that. Thrag got to tell more.

SPEAKER_11 37:39

Nah, yeah, he took out they get it once they once he took out the strongest, it was over.

SPEAKER_07 37:46

Yeah, man. Once he took out the strong, yeah, he man.

SPEAKER_02 37:49

So, but no, but shout out to Nolan for figuring it out because when he realized what was happening, he was like, All right, it once he saw um Oliver done, he was like, All right, we can't do this.

SPEAKER_07 38:00

So he was like, Yeah, Hail Mary, Hail Mary, they did let's blow up this planet, and that was a great scene. I know that was in the comic book, but that was a great scene. Yeah, scene in action is amazing, dude.

SPEAKER_09 38:15

And Mark, he he likes, uh y'all sure y'all want to do this?

SPEAKER_07 38:19

Come on, catch up, yeah. Say it, stay with us. Mark Mark is so dope because he was in a state of confusion, he was in the state of fear, and he was stayed to stay in the state of standalone business and trying to do this thing, but yeah, it was wild work for Mark. So, yeah, they destroyed the whole planet. Dude shot the beam, they followed the beam so they could break up the uh the earth, break up the earth part, you know, the physical.

SPEAKER_02 38:48

They basically they basically nuke the planet because they was moving at such a speed that it created a field of energy around them behind the laser. Yeah, so the laser goes through and build and bores the primary hole, and they come in like the precise blunt instrument to knock it apart, yeah just yeah, and breaks planet, and you pierce through the whole planet and planet, clothes off, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 39:13

Burnt the clothes, and now I know why Thrag was pissed off because the barber was still on the planet. Man, you killed my barber. He was mad. He said, No, no, I had an appointment. I solid go do rags and all that shit.

SPEAKER_11 39:33

Fuck man, all right, man. All gone, all right, man. All gone.

SPEAKER_07 39:38

All right, all right. I choose death, man.

SPEAKER_02 39:42

He was so mad.

SPEAKER_07 39:44

When he grabbed that, yeah, dude.

SPEAKER_02 39:48

Grab that motherfucker at any time, which is the worst part, anytime, and that's the thing.

SPEAKER_07 39:55

He was just watching this show. He was not trying to kill these niggas, he wasn't trying to kill nobody, he was chilling. If you approached him, he's gonna defend himself, but nah, he was actually chilling. So y'all went and blew up the planet. All right, after we just talked, I told you where I stood on, fam. Right, right, right. Now you do the one thing, all right, man. So now I'm mad. Now you piss me off. Yeah, I'll take out your boy. Sorry, Optimus. Damn, Optimus. We ain't gonna see Optimus no more.

SPEAKER_02 40:24

Hey, that was, and now I understand why why they like a lot of them are taking heads because Viltramites heal from everything else, they do, they do.

SPEAKER_07 40:34

So you gotta really they go for the guts, they go for the fucking ripping your head off, crushing your skull type shit.

SPEAKER_02 40:42

So you can't guts don't even kill you. A Viltramite, that's the crazy part. No, it doesn't like that's it's like every time you see that happen, they always heal. But that's the thing, he did that to Nolan, yeah, and he could have finished him, but he didn't. He didn't, and then he grabbed Mark and he hurt him, but then he stopped again because you know he realized how much mark is important, and mark is important and mark. Let him know that the humans like you can you can mix with a human and proof of bad ones, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 41:14

The bad motherfuckers with the willpower of the humans and the um tenacity and the strength of a ultra mic, you can make a motherfucker that's in oh man, but overall is a great show. This episode in particular that we deep diving into is definitely flying certified. If you haven't watched season what's season four of Invincible on Prime Amazon, yeah, you missing out on a real good treat because this episode was is what we all been anticipating since watching this shit since day one, since the first episode, and the first episode is classic. You see, Nolan going through the guardians and all that shit. We're way from that now.

SPEAKER_02 42:02

That lets you know the power level because Nolan runs through the guardians the way Thrag runs through them, runs through them, yep, yep.

SPEAKER_07 42:10

And do rag Thrag, man. He's on my best villain list. Hey, shot AEW, because you just made the list.

SPEAKER_02 42:19

Is he a villain though? Is he actually a villain? See, this is where we like politically, you know, from a political point of view, me being an earthling from Earth, yeah, he's a villain because he's trying to fuck up my planet. But in the grand scheme of things, as as on Earth, we're watching people be Thrag in real life. Think about it. So I'm like, like if we go, like we have to recognize Thrag is a villain, but to quote um Thor in that um in the um One World Under Doom story, when Thor was like, most worlds have an have an absolute ruler, and he rules other planets to keep order and to keep them sustained and protect them. Right. He said that's the all father. He said it's only on Earth that y'all think something wrong with that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 43:11

And he comes from fucking uh wait, where Thor from? Um Asgard. Asgard. They always his father was the king. He was the hair. Yeah, you know.

SPEAKER_02 43:22

He ruled multiple, he moved, he ruled the nine realms. Yeah, the nine realms. So you know he ruled all that shit. And he ruled it through an iron fist. They the the Asgardians conquered worlds to become, you know, to get that way.

SPEAKER_07 43:35

What they are, and this is just part of the real um well, what is that hierarchy?

SPEAKER_02 43:41

Yep. How would a America would be nothing without a thrag? Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 43:47

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 43:49

Let that one say.

SPEAKER_07 43:50

But don't they look ain't this situation already like that though?

SPEAKER_02 43:54

That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. With this motherfucker in the office, and that's what I'm saying. So It's inevitable that a thrag would be born amongst Americans the same way a thrag was born amongst the Viltramites, because this is a con this is a conquest-oriented civilization. And even amongst their own people, only the strong survive. They will kill off their own, the weaker ones, the ones that they don't deem worthy, the ones that they don't deem American enough. You're not American enough, so you gotta be you slaughtered. So we you know Viltramites are overlay over America, for real.

SPEAKER_07 44:31

Yeah, indeed, indeed. But yeah, like you said, but that's the that's the that's the um that's the white, that's the line, that's the invisible line of like what's villain because they go and taking over planets, you know. I mean, they do a lot of shit, and that's what Nolan was like like, look, man, the reason he did that because we're gonna fuck everything up and destroy the universe, and like doing the way we doing it, like we gotta change the way we move things and shit. Ain't hearing that look, man.

SPEAKER_09 45:09

Y'all, we already kill each other, we killing each other. Like, look, man, what we doing?

SPEAKER_07 45:13

He's like, What's the point? What's the point? Genocide only on yourself is bad, but even think about the um the traitor, as they call him, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 45:24

He don't he don't get a name, he's just the traitor. He went after he killed off all the Viltramites, he bounced and then formed a new empire, still became the leader, right?

SPEAKER_07 45:35

Right, still because he knew they was gonna be on his ass.

SPEAKER_02 45:40

Well, not just that, because they use a Viltramite, and that's what they do, and that's what they it's their nature, right? So and then decided to wage war because he could have left the Viltramites alone. You stay over there, we'll stay over here.

SPEAKER_07 45:51

They was chilling, they was chilling, Mile and their own. I swear to god, they was chill, they was killing each other. They was killing they was busy, right?

SPEAKER_02 45:58

They was busy infighting and dealing with what they was dealing with. They didn't know where he was, they didn't know his planet.

SPEAKER_07 46:06

It was a protected planet, they could not get felt some sort of way when um they was invading or taking over the planet, they started to um revolt and actually um making a relation with these pieces that particular species they could have benefited from because they had some, I guess, resources. I don't know. The trader seen some good in them that they could have used, and um other squad wasn't with it, so he was like, you know what? I think their threat is the nature of man or nature of virtue might.

SPEAKER_02 46:38

I'm gonna be real with you. If I if I knew Thrag was the guy at the top of that totem pole, I would have just worked on the virus. Like, why am I fighting this guy? Like, if I know that you know, it's just a it's a it shows how stupid they are, you know. I'm saying they can't help but fight, they can't help but they wanted to throw hands, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 47:00

They wanted to throw hands.

SPEAKER_02 47:01

I mean, knowing they could not, like you knew, like nah, you can you couldn't do nothing to this man, and you and so and so you threw all the sheep to the to the slaughter to the to the wolf. You threw them, you threw them. Take these sheep, knowing that the sheep would have no way to fight against this wolf, and then you died in the process, you dumbass. So now all the plans are gone, all the plans are because you had all the plans. Well, Alan stepped up, yeah. Alan stepped up, but even Alan Alan, you see, Alan been sitting there quiet.

SPEAKER_09 47:39

He said, I don't know where the village might set, and uh I don't really see them in space, can't discard the miss.

SPEAKER_08 47:51

He said they disappeared. He's like, What do you mean they disappeared? They gotta be somewhere.

SPEAKER_07 47:56

The way they knew it wasn't doing it was like, What are we gonna do, Thrag? He was like, Hey, he just peeled out. I was like, Oh, they going to Earth, and yeah, now I want to see what happened on grounds. Now we on on gravity grounds. What's up?

SPEAKER_02 48:13

Come on, I want to know where Battle Beast went.

SPEAKER_07 48:17

Yeah, battle beast still on the ship. Everyone is intact, everybody is but we didn't see him. He after the fight in space, we didn't see him. Yes, you did. You did he's on that ship. Yes, he's on the ship because they show the whole team when um Alan becomes the dude, he's suited up in a row and he's sitting at the table. He's talking to the team. And you see tech jacket, you see the um man on the motorcycle, you see battle beasts, and um you saw Battle Beast? Yeah, I saw Battle Beast. Mark and Nolan and Mark and Nolan because Mark wake up. Oliver's still in the in the mark. Wake up and he sees the team, and then he goes and see Oliver is in the chamber, and then Nolan is why looking at um Oliver, and then they hug and they chop it up. So everyone's in tech, everyone's is fine, everyone is fine. So that's what I'm saying. They go to Earth, more grounded. We'll see how it go. One more episode left.

SPEAKER_02 49:13

I mean, we saw we saw Thrag on the ground. I meant the team, I mean the advantage. I know. I just I was just saying we saw Thrag on the ground, and it wasn't much more of an advantage against Nolan had nothing.

SPEAKER_07 49:30

Nolan, a bitch, man. He ain't he ain't throwing no hands. He he was scared, he was like, Dad, how we gonna beat him?

SPEAKER_02 49:41

Look, Nolan's Nolan's wrist was broken, his feet, his whole forearm was gone. He did, he threw what he had at him, and he got nothing. And so, you know, and then he already has saw what happened with your with his son Oliver. He was like, Look, we we we've done everything we can.

SPEAKER_07 50:02

Why get into this engagement if you ain't ready? They was as ready as they was gonna get. There was level power level of thrag. Is that it?

SPEAKER_02 50:12

You know, thrag is not just see, that's the part that's not really clearly stated. But my understanding is that Thrag is genetically bred, he wasn't just like trained after he was born, but they took the strongest of the strongest Viltramites DNA and made him. Okay, that's why nobody ever fucks with him. And how could you?

SPEAKER_07 50:36

No one told Conquest to stop. He looked at him like he thought about it, but then he he backed down real quick.

SPEAKER_02 50:43

He's like, Do you really want to test me, bro? And he was like, and now think conquest is the baddest of the crew, yeah. He the baddest that nigga named Conquest because he has the most conquest, and he was told he told Thrag told him that shit with that stern voice. First, he said it casually, and then he he talked back a little bit, and then Thrag was like, Nigga, it's over. He said, It's over. Well, he said, Okay, right, you're right. You got it, you got it.

SPEAKER_07 51:09

Maybe you're a little bit too hyped up from all the fighting, but nigga, shut the fuck up, it's over.

SPEAKER_02 51:14

Yeah, that was a moment, and I think if we understood that moment, that's the moment where we should have realized. Notwithstanding, I don't understand what's wrong with his voice, but anyway, notwithstanding his voice, like the dude just shut down the strongest Viltramite that we have seen on screen with just a voice, with just a word, a few words, no flexing, no threats. It's like, dude, we done.

SPEAKER_07 51:42

Fuck all y'all with the non-sound. Comic book voice gotta go. Comic book voice. Yeah, fuck all y'all, man. That was perfect. Shout out to Lee Pace, shout out to motherfucking Lee Pace, shout out to Peter Cullen, shout out to Frank Welker, shout out to the whole Walking Dead staff is part of this show now, so it's a continuation, and um, yeah, man, we're gonna celebrate that. So uh moving on, another series that was hitting to me was motherfucking uh Daredevil Born Again Season 2, um, episode what four or five or something shit, three or four for um whatever the latest episode of Daredevil is. I think it's on, I think we're on five. Five, okay. So yeah, latest episodes was dope because all this time, and if you've been watching Daredevil since the Netflix series, MCU Marvel some they could do it, they could do it when they want to, man. They had us watching all this, and he wasn't the full kingpin from the turn of events of this Daredevil series. Now we've been building up, yeah. We've been building up all this time, and now we're gonna get the full kingpin, like full-blown kingpin, you know, and um that's fascinating to me when it comes to character development because um Daredevil is there. We got Daredevil, we got the Punisher, you know what I'm saying? Depending on Jessica Jones and how everyone else should pop up, we got all these people. We get into Spider-Man. Now we're seeing Spider-Man for Spider-Man, not Spider Boy with the Avengers and shit. Is it's Spider-Man? It's the same thing what they do with the villains, man. And now we're fully getting the 360, a whole turn of emotion, whole turn of like character, because the actor is crazy, man. He he showed different levels of layers of personality with um Wilson Fisk. You know, I mean, we've seen the crazy, he killed his father with a hammer. You know, he's really extreme and berserk. Yeah, he goes extreme, take extreme measures because that's just the nature of what he does, and what he has bottled inside, all this rage and anger and and and you know, disappointment, and all this shit he keeps bottle inside. So when he explodes, he's a he explodes, very menacing, very dark, but can be very calm, collective, calculated, very fucking um, you know, just really sharp, high, high standard of things. What he eat, you know, he eats fancy shit in the prison, you know. You know what I mean? Like this is this is Wilson Fist. He showed all these layers of this character, but now we get into the kingpin. And the kingpin is a ruthless, dangerous, criminal mastermind. And um, we get into that, and he and he he fights Spider-Man, he's strong enough to fight Spider-Man.

SPEAKER_02 54:53

Well, he's getting there now because we're starting like we're we're learning that his rage increases his strength, like most people. But we're also but his strength level, so he's in the ring with a heavyweight boxer, and that guy was a big fucking boxer.

SPEAKER_07 55:08

He said he don't need a mouthpiece because dude ain't gonna hit me.

SPEAKER_02 55:12

Yeah, he was like, dude, ain't even gonna touch me. So now we're we're witnessing him at like his elevate, like you said, and this episode was all about the the shift and the whole thing of taking it back to that first painting, the white painting. And the white painting was all about him seeing, like kind of this like real real, like revealing or realizing his true potential and where he what he wanted in life, which was everything. And so now we're getting we're going, like you say, full circle. We're back to they bring up that painting, and then we discuss how Vanessa was responsible for that painting and responsible for him ascending, right? So now he's at the height of his ascension as mayor kingpin. So now you're gonna take that linchpin out of the grenade, you're removing that from the equation.

SPEAKER_07 56:05

Vanessa gone, Vanessa gone. So shout out to Bullseye, man. He had a change of heart. Kill Foggy, you want to change your life, you want to make things right, man.

SPEAKER_02 56:15

So no, I've been bullseye is a fucking psychopath, man. Bullseye is not a good guy, he don't want to redeem himself. I think he's playing a game, man. I think he fucked his look because he tells he tells Daredevil to leave him. That's the suicidal side, but then when Daredevil comes back, he smirk. He knew what the fuck was it?

SPEAKER_09 56:38

I knew it, buddy.

SPEAKER_02 56:40

This is there, you can't fuck with like no man, like bullseye is not a good guy, like he's nuts, and you threw me off a building, and I still like he's getting inside of Daredevil's head.

SPEAKER_07 56:56

Daredevil's so stupid, he's blind, man.

SPEAKER_02 56:58

You can't give away literally blind, like he's blind as fuck.

SPEAKER_07 57:02

Because he never sees the shit.

SPEAKER_02 57:05

But look, everybody around him keep telling him Punisher told him last season, like, look, you dumbass.

SPEAKER_07 57:11

Look, dumbass, it ain't working, it ain't working. Now I'm gonna go out here, I'm gonna murder, I'm gonna kill, I'm gonna go and uh fight Spider-Man because I got a bigger deal. I just signed a good contract, man.

SPEAKER_02 57:23

Oh, you stupid. Yeah, hey, and then and then in this episode, knowing that this, like you say, this episode ties to the Punisher, right? The Punisher ties to Spider-Man. The Spider-Man ties into Doomsday.

SPEAKER_07 57:37

Now the watchers in this episode, Spider-Man fighting um the hand, it makes kind of sense, but we'll get into that. Yes, the watcher, the watchers first. I was put out, I thought it was just nah.

SPEAKER_02 57:50

You can't even you cannot make that accidental. Them perfectly placed lights. That was the watch in the shape that's the watch who so putting that there and knowing that he watches very specific moments in the Marvel timelines, like critical moments that bring about a particular result that impacts the entire multiverse.

SPEAKER_07 58:13

So now we hear like I said after the murder of Vanessa, in which something else could have happened, but Daredevil saved the day. He watching all this shit, these motherfuckers running off, and then he watching the watcher watching, like, okay, so that's the kingpin. That's how this got all the juice now, son. You got the juice.

SPEAKER_02 58:40

That's the what the what if episode starts with some moment and watch the watch or watching, right? And that's how this this just happened. And this is a we probably got one more episode in this season, maybe one or two.

SPEAKER_07 58:52

I um think one, right? I think it's eight episodes. So if this is five, no, we got a long way to go because like I said, three more. Yeah, king pin is we're gonna see king pin, dude. He pissed off. They did two episodes where Vanessa died at the end. Same tone, nah, dude. Next episode, fist is gonna get in. You're gonna take care of business. Now, ain't no more fist, it's kingpin. So all them little problems he's been having in that office. You can you ain't gonna even be mayor no more. It's a wrap, it's a wrap, it's over. The jig is up.

SPEAKER_02 59:30

The jig is up, so yeah, you well, yeah. So, right now, what we looking at, yeah, we was on episode five, so we only got three more, we got three more episodes, but I'm pretty sure it's all downhill from here. Like, like their devil told downhill Matt told him, he said, if if she dies, because um Bullseye asked him, What do you think he'll do? He said, He's gonna turn the city upside down and shake it. He said, Ain't gonna be a place that he won't look for us. No, and and them going to that church leads me to think that they already knew that Daredevil be popping off in there.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:11

They know everything. Fist know everything, even in his own office when he was sitting down with dude and told him, Look, man, these leaks keep happening. He knows what be.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:22

Yeah, because let's talk about that. He knows that shit is he sat there and had his boy send off, like send go off with dude, and that whole drive, you know, they created this tension, and dude playing the mind games like like like he's like you the one, we gonna get you. So then, like, I'm sitting there, like, ain't no way I'm driving this guy to my death. I'm not driving him to kill me. So, you you know, like in the old mob movies, so they pull up to the hardware store, and I'm like, This nigga is going in the hardware store to get all the tools he needs to fucking kill me. So I'm like, and I'm like, pull off. So he starts the car and then he don't pull off, right? Yeah, so he was like, Nah, I'm gonna stand my ground because I didn't do anything, and he really didn't. He was he was manipulated, he was he, but he didn't intentionally do anything.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:09

He did leak when oh BB was BB went to the fucking hospital where Vanessa was. No, what I'm saying is that he was manipulating that like he nah, he's still he's a he's the one that's leaking the shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:25

That's all but he's but he's not in he's not leaking it with the intent of that. He was manipulated because you know, you know, she gave him a hug and he spilled everything that in the hospital. It was like you know what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:36

So because he but but dude knew everybody knew what it was, and that's why niggas be caking, they be cold switching for the little pussy, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:46

He fell for the hokey dog. So they said, Well, we gotta take we gotta take the harlot off the playing field because she's manipulating you, and so that's when at the end, when he was like, There's only there's only one question left to ask, he's like, I'll do anything, I'll just don't kill me. He's like, Saw, or what do you say, saw or something? Yeah, so that was being in the trunk. Yes, they knew that's what I'm saying. They took the they took the person that was the problem out of the playing, out of the play. They knew he was being manipulated, and that he was really down for the cause, but he you know couldn't say no to the pretty face, yeah. So they said, Well, you too valuable and important to us because you do be doing your thing. You just are loyal, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:27

That's what he said. You are a loyal motherfucker. He probably talked, yeah, he talked to his guy, he he's a loyal problem, but what is it? Well, it's just like you and Vanessa.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:37

Oh, yeah, he's like, Oh, we gotta check that out.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:40

So, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:42

So they they they took care of that problem, and then they're making him do it to prove his loyalty.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:49

That's how he proves his fealty. And the show, I know all. If you're gonna be a part of this shit, now leak this out. Now, if this get out, now I know you're a part of it right now. You're a part of it, and if you were a snitch, you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:06

So you trapped you in the game now, fam.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:08

So that's it.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:09

I like that scene. I liked it a lot because of the fact how it built it up.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:13

Yeah, I love it. Just that moment also since that was B B in the trunk, and yeah, I I thought was one of the dudes, the engineers or something.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:22

That was that was her. That's crazy. That's crazy. But also, if you notice during the whole time, dude didn't say a word while he was spilling his guts. I didn't do anything.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:33

Nah, because you know he let me know information, it's like what you said at this point. I have nothing to say to you, and I'm not here to negotiate and talk to you. We said our piece already. I'm going working on behalf of the kingpin, bro. This is instructural method, this is business. Do as you told, right? Do as you told, because I don't want to be on this side of the car either. I don't want to be on that side, so I'm going to know what I told. So, but at the same time, he's recording all this information. So, do dry snitch on himself anyway.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:09

Well, he didn't tell him nothing bad though. He said, Man, I ain't done nothing. He said, Whatever I whatever, whatever I did, I probably deserve it, but I didn't do it on purpose if I did it. He said, I don't know what I did to make y'all mad, but I'm I I didn't do it on purpose. So it's showing his sincerity, and all the way to the last moment where he thought he was the one that was gonna die, he did not spill anything that sound that was incriminating, he didn't admit to anything. That was the jewel. He did not so like if you go to the moment and you still don't spill it, you you thorough, you know what I'm saying? At the very end, he still didn't be like, Yeah, I've been telling her, you know, he didn't say none of that. He held his ground, like I didn't do anything because he didn't. He didn't he see the leak is the person that put it to the press or that puts it out in the media. He's talking to somebody he was supposed to be trusting, and he told her stop, remember?

SPEAKER_07 1:04:58

Yeah, he told her to stop. He asked, You didn't know with her and said, Hey, please stop because our life could be in danger. Like, he did give her a thorough threat, but she pulled up to the hospital asking for information. That was bugging me out, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:13

It's like and and he caught on to it because he was like, Really, you're gonna do this now? Yeah, and that's when she realized, Oh shit, I didn't I didn't expose my hand. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's when she put on the other, the other, the other mask and started hugging.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:26

All of them, uh, everyone watching, yeah, everyone watching, so she got what she deserved. Oh, yeah, she got what she deserved. That's my point. I don't really feel bad because she got what she deserved. She was worn, and you keep playing with fire, you're going to get burned.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:42

Shout out to she was doing it too legit, she was doing it too blatant. It was like nigga, you the only odd, you're the only wild card in this entire situation that shows up where you shouldn't be. And do media. So fuck that only one so. Yeah, and remember they even there was a time where they went to her and they said, you know, um, you do totally the chill.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:07

Yeah, they tried to read her a little bit, and then you know, she played the distance or something. Oh, my father, or something, and then she ran off.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:17

You don't get to that level.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:19

You can't play dumb with criminal masterminds, masterminds. So they know the streets and how to move and operate on levels that you have no um that you have never seen. These niggas are watching you when they're not watching you, you know.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:32

I mean, everyone's watching you are sleeping, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:06:37

He knows if you've been bad or good, so be good for Kingpin's sake.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:41

Hey, go and crack.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:47

Yeah, that's a mug. This show, this show jumped with such intensity so fast.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:53

It was that was a good old Marvel way, man. Good old Marvel way, and this is all street shit, too. You know what I mean? So it's really dope to see these elements and finally like this season is way more smoother than the first season, because this is supposed to be the season what they were supposed to be doing. So, uh story is solid. Yeah, we're in the thick of it. We got three more episodes left, like I said. So now we're entering Kingpin, and um, we're gonna see how all this happened because he's not gonna be the mayor no more. Because it's gonna be he it's not happening. And this leads into the Punisher episode, and then um it leads to Spider-Man. So then that leads to Doomsday.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:40

This lead now, this like this show though is like where is Penguin Season 2 at? They need to bring, they need to bring they ass.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:51

Hey, well, you know, back to the cinema kind thing, they did show a trailer for motherfucking clayface, and man, I heard that trailer uh is weird, crazy, off-putting, and that's gonna be it because it's gonna introduce the DCU Gotham City as well. So um, I don't know, I don't know. Um, penguin. Oh, well, they're doing Batman 2, so ain't no Penguin Season uh two need to be done unless it's really gonna lead into Batman. But I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what they're doing. I think weird though. I don't know. Uh you mean guns even weird to it, yeah, because it's got two Gotham Cities, like I said, I just said yeah, clayface is not that Gotham City, it's not part of that Gotham City, but showing the DCU Gotham City, so yeah, Clayface is a part of the Batman, right? Right. No, no, Clayface is gonna be the DCU Batman. Oh, this is DCU Batman because it's the same clayface as oh, from in um creature commando, yeah, yeah. So it's dealing with his origin. Oh, yeah. This is gonna be like uh remember the Batman animated series, uh episode of Clayface. Yeah, I didn't like that.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:05

That's that's not comfortable. Clayface is not a comfortable character.

SPEAKER_07 1:09:10

No, he's not, and that's that's what it's gonna it's gonna be a body whore, it's gonna be rated R, it's gonna be whore, it's gonna be um very grue, grotesque. Because I mean, like they said he's gonna rub his face, and his face is gonna mush. So you think all this shit that's on gonna be live action?

SPEAKER_02 1:09:30

Like, yeah, we're gonna see some very body morphing weird shit with uh clayface because if we get full form, clay face oh this so we're talking about like clayface can absorb people and shit, like yeah, get them inside in himself and then toss them everything.

SPEAKER_07 1:09:50

Yeah, he did that on Captain Commandos with Frankenstein smothering.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:54

Like, listen, I want to see Frankenstein, man. Fuck all that. I want to see the bride and Frankenstein. Well, we're gonna see that's the movie, like because I feel like like creature commandos unlocked everybody to start pulling out these Frankenstein and bride movies, and while these movies are decent, I think they they did that to jump the gun on DC's Frankenstein before that came out, probably so, probably so because nobody was thinking about it.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:19

I I wasn't mad at no one was mad. I mean, no one was thinking about it, but I wasn't mad at the Frankenstein.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:24

No, I I like the well, I didn't I like the one I didn't see the bride, but I didn't want to see that because it reminds me of Harley Quinn and the Joker, and I don't want to see that.

unknown 1:10:32

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:33

Hey, why do I want to see a version of that like that? Just if that's the case, just give me the damn the damn DC version, right?

unknown 1:10:40

Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:40

So, you know, that's that's why I was like, that was interesting that you decided to put these movies out right before, right after DC has established that they're they've got a Frankenstein and a bride, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_07 1:10:52

Hey man, the Hollywood, yeah, they full of shit. Oh, yeah, we got Frankenstein too. Good idea.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:58

It's like get out of here. Like, I bet you the guy that wrote that Frankenstein script had that script for 20 years trying to sell that shit.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:05

Yeah, then yeah, no, oh thanks to James Gunn.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:10

Now they bought it. That's dope, but nah, that's some bullshit. Because if you really like the Frankenstein story, you wouldn't have to wait, you just release it, right? Yeah, you would just make it whenever, but you decided to make it after James Gunn made Frankenstein popular again. It's like y'all corny, y'all can't y'all have no creative bones in y'all bodies because if you were a trendsetter or a tastemaker, then you would make Frankenstein dope, which is what James Gunn did. You know, he made Frankenstein interesting again, and he didn't worry about there's nobody else talking about Frankenstein. He said, Fuck that Frankenstein and the bride is in my shit.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:45

Hollywood is Hollywood, man. They ain't never well, they do let some things in. I just saw that uh movie They Will Kill You with uh Zazzy Beats. Um, that movie was pretty dope.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:58

I need to watch that. I do need to and I actually need to watch that um before we go to the Mortal Kombat um premiere thing. Yeah, yeah, you should. Which now I'm like, I I'm I'm I'm more interested in a street fighter.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:13

Well, we that's in October, so the same office. We could work that out as well. Um, yeah, Mortal Kombat, we will be um, I don't have the information off here. No, uh we at Marcus Theater. Yeah, yeah, we're gonna do um the Mortal Kombat premiere alongside where I play games, uh Kevin. And um, yeah, we're gonna be at what Marcus Theater, you said? Yeah, Marcus Theater.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:40

Um you know what? Go to for everybody, anyone that's interested, go to iPlay Games. Um, that's Kevin Fair um on social media, and he should have a link for it. Um they're selling tickets for it, and it's a full, it's a full event. So they're going to have, of course, the um Mortal Kombat um video games, tournament, etc. They're also going to have um the actual original um actors vis that they that they use for the characters in the first Mortal Kombat video game. They're gonna be there for QA. Um, the QA is being hosted by someone else. Um, we'll get we'll get our our jives in too, so we ain't tripping. Um, yeah, it should be so the movie, then it's gonna be the QA with the Mortal Kombat original cast from the game, and then video game extravaganza with iPlay games, so it should be dope. Yeah, um, notwithstanding that Mortal Kombat may or may not be good.

SPEAKER_07 1:13:38

Uh, that's that's a different conversation, but we don't have no parts of that. But um, hopefully it is. But like I said, they tricked us before, but oh, they tricked us, tricked us. Yeah, we'll we'll see how it go. Um, shout out to Street Fighter though. Um, when that drop in October, I'm quite sure we'll be having something going on for that as well. So um, 100%. Hey, it's movies, this the competition, you know what I mean? This the competition now, you know, it's competition.

SPEAKER_11 1:14:07

Fun, fun, fun, competition, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:14:11

Speaking of competition, man, I can't wait till they send me, they ship out the MPC sample that I ordered, man. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? I seen so many people with it, you know. Every this reminds me of uh the Mesco figure, you know what I mean? That all the toy collectors was pre-ordering and shit, and everyone gets that same time, and they open the box and and take your pictures and poses and all that shit. It's the same shit with the MPC sample. Um, see now the producers, Erica Badu on down, you know, to regular smojo's with an MPC sample, but it's really effective. I saw it in person. Um, it's a sampler, you know. It kind of um talking to Kenny Keys, it reminded us of the sampler that he had back in the day called the SU 700 Yamaha, where you just sample it, you could use the pads, you could um keynote key mat things on it, you know what I mean? And it's really dope. So you could do the same thing with the NPC sample, and um, it's really small, light. You could throw it in your bag, you can throw it in your you can throw it in your coat pocket if it's big enough, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 1:15:25

If it fits a calculator, it'll fit.

SPEAKER_07 1:15:27

If it fits a calculator, it could fit. So that's why I call it a little Akai calculator. And um, I'm gonna get it. I can't wait to get it, so I could uh get back into making some beats and stuff, and then it's it's all you don't need a computer program, it's self-contained, so you know you don't have to plug it in unless you want to to feed your samples into it, but you don't need a particular computer program to align with it, so it's dope.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:58

No, that sounds like that sounds like a win. I think um yeah, I think everybody that's in that's that's into that space will definitely use it to the best of its ability. I'm looking to see what the limits are that people can push it to. Because it's interesting, like if you already got an NPC, like a lot of people, you know, was was really jumping on that NPC one when it dropped, right? Which was also a standalone, but it was a little more of a workstation, yeah. Um, like a like a controller. And so now I'm like, well, if you I like the novelties of things like the um the SP1 and like this, like these smaller samplers, which are good for on the go or you know, show up at a coffee shop and you know, make some beats. Yeah, like that's that's that serves its purpose. I'm wondering, for full production, is that all you need, or do you still need more?

SPEAKER_07 1:16:51

Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah. Um, could you make just a could you make a full production off this little device? Um, I think if you feed it through other things, it's still I don't know, because it's still MIDI, it's still MIDI chords, it's still well that that means you'd have to connect it to something else.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:10

That's why I'm wondering, like from a from a standalone perspective, from start to finish, like how robust can you make what can't you can you do everything? Can you lay your vocals do everything inside of this one device and then go straight from that device to oh no?

SPEAKER_07 1:17:23

You can't, it's just a sampler, it's just a sample, so that's what it is. It's just a sampler, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:28

So you still need to connect it to your device, then another device.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:30

Yeah, that's why I said it got mini connects, it got connects where you could connect um any device, you know, your laptops. If you got programs, you got other things. You got Ableton, you got anything, you got DJ Um Serrado, all that shit you could connect to it. If you got the MIDI chords, you could connect it to some real equipment, you know. I mean, you got the keyboard or something that you use um as well, you could connect all of that shit up too. It's just smaller. So, your question is a good question of can it just stand alone make a full production that you could um you know make a full record song from? But it sounds more like you do your infrastructure on it, you can build it on with the rest of your stuff. So, you know, if you have a groove, if you want some drums, you got your drums on there, you got your sample, you want to chop something up and just put the skeleton there, then I think is that's that's doable.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:24

No, that's dope because the size of it, you could pull it out on a plane, right? You know what I'm saying? You could pull it out, like I say, in a coffee shop.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:31

You can add that on the plane, you can add that shit. It's like uh green eggs and ham with a box with a fox on a green eggs and ham, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:18:44

I like them, Sam.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:45

I am but hey, this NPC sample is gonna make you like it, Jack. And you're just cutting up right now.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:51

That's dope. So, yeah, because I was torn between I still like the I was looking like you know, it's only a few hundred dollars more to get the MPC one. So if you need the on the go compact, then yeah, the NPC sample.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:06

I think that'll work for me because just for those reasons. Um, I have other producer friends that know how to guide me. I'm not fully invested and confident in my production alone to just go ahead and go with it. Nah, nigga. Hey, look what I got, Kenny Keys. Play some bass lines, nigga. Do some magic, nigga. A fifth, look what I got over here, man. Ask some scratches, add some other sounds, your shakers and your claps to it. Hey Todd, man. Hey, you know, I I need you to juice this up, you know what I'm saying? Add some other sounds into it. So, you know, everything works for the way it works, you just need that one little drive, yeah. Yeah, and every little add-on is my personal, you know what I mean? Like I could build from this, that's all you need. That's all you need, yeah. And that's production, that's really production because there's a difference of beat making and production. Yes, you could make the beats on there, and then you could turn it into a production later down the line. So word out music, shout out to before lasers, shout out to Kenny Keys, shout out to Rashi Hide, shout out to Backpack Beats, shout out to Fillmore Green, shout out to Cousin Vinny, Cousin Vinny, shout out to uh SP.

SPEAKER_11 1:20:26

No, um Uncle L was there.

SPEAKER_07 1:20:29

L shout out to um, yes, L. Shout out to um international MC, shout out to Fift, shout out to everybody, shout out to GQ the teacher, shout out to Rufus, shout out to Race, shout um Joel Q and um Q Britney Carter, Britney Carter showed up. Yeah, shout out, shout out to everyone. Chicago showed up. It was before laser's birthday event at um all y'all Aries was in the whisper, yeah. All the Aries, it's Aries season, niggas. So slaps go slaps is united, united slaps, slaps everybody, slaps everybody, and you get a slap, you get a slap, get a slap, you get a slap. So that was the night. It was slap night, man. So they was playing their slaps, all the beat makers was playing their slaps, everyone was moving and grooving. Um, Taiwan showed up. Uh, shout out to him, shout out to uh yeah, Kitty Keys. He he closed the show. My cousin Vinny, he shut shit down, you know, playing their slaps and moving and grooving and doing all their things, man. Everyone was on stage rocking, having a good time. It was a festival, it was airie season party. You're welcome, you're welcome. Happy new year, motherfucker. This is the new year, it's airy season. I celebrated my birthday joint in the in the midst of all this craziness, too. So, shout out to the team, shout out to my friends, shout out to all the people that celebrate airy season because yeah, it's not you look outside the tree, a lot of y'all move around.

SPEAKER_09 1:22:08

It's tons of us, it's tons of us, we're retramites.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:15

Hey, you don't know how real that is. Y'all need to really pay attention to that one.

SPEAKER_09 1:22:19

Yeah, the uh you never know.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:22

Q tip well, we know he wage war, yeah.

SPEAKER_09 1:22:27

Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:31

With the um Grammys, Grammys, everybody goes to war.

SPEAKER_07 1:22:35

Knife Wonder, you don't give a fuck your name, knife wonder. I'm a Q tip nigga.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:42

Everybody needs a Q tip every once in a while.

SPEAKER_07 1:22:46

This is a knife wonder. No man, there's tons of us. Red man K Solo. I go now and list Aretha Man and K Solo are Aries.

SPEAKER_11 1:22:58

No wonder, no wonder, yeah. Okay, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_09 1:23:07

We got hitters, we got hit us, we got hit us for real.

SPEAKER_11 1:23:11

Yeah, Aries. Really, I can't tell, but yeah, I got you. Hey, yes, he is.

SPEAKER_09 1:23:16

You can tell way to the way he did what he showed his ass on that clips album. Good point, a good point. Yeah, I forgot, nigga.

SPEAKER_08 1:23:31

Yeah, he did, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:34

Okay, all right, we got it.

SPEAKER_08 1:23:38

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:39

Well, airy season, you know. By the time you probably listen to this and maybe come to a close. So it was fun. I enjoyed myself. I love airie season because it's the real start of the year for me, and it's a jump start. All this shit. Look, all this shit we've been talking about is kicking off in the airy season, man. And that's that's the way how you do it. We kick it off.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:01

Yeah, there is a uh bullshit. There's an inter you know, the crown of Aerie Season is actually WrestleMania. Absolutely, but unfortunately, this WrestleMania is more like a um like the little plastic crown you get in um the dollar store.

SPEAKER_07 1:24:21

Uh this like the fucking Burger King crown, it's a paper crown, birthday. Yeah, man. They cracked over this, man. It's TKO. I've been watching wrestling just to see the road of WrestleMania and how it was, if it was worth talking about, and um it's it's it's here and there, man. I mean, they got the um, and you probably listen to this after actually WrestleMania is this weekend, the past weekend, by the time you hear this. So, yeah, um, the lineup, some of the lineup, I ain't going through the whole list. Uh CM Punk versus Roman Reigns for the uh championship on the Brawl side, which was man.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:59

Um I'm like Roman Reigns had already, you know, like you why are you in this nigga?

SPEAKER_07 1:25:05

You an actor now, you're gonna be here, you're not gonna be there every year all the time. You do do you show up when you show up, and which is cool. He he explained himself, he got family, you know. He got his other career going. It's the same John Cena and the rock shit. We get it, but stop stepping in this in the slot for a championship, nigga. We don't need to see that. So TKO, I feel like they put these things together and doing this. Roman Reigns been fucking hairlining he's he's gonna be a man or some shit, yeah. So it's like for the past three, four WrestleMania. So it's like it's the same old shit. So shout out to Punk, he's Chicago. I'm always gonna bet on Chicago. Um, by the time you hear this next time, we'll have results. Better have one.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:55

Yeah, I don't think Roman got nothing for CM Punk. CM Punk is a fucking brawler when it gets he can technically wrestle, but he'll brawl you. He could brawl, he's he's a he's a dense, hard to kill dude.

SPEAKER_07 1:26:06

Yeah, he he got an armadillo shell because that motherfucker just take a piece of licking and keep on ticking, pop up that shoulder on the two, you know. I mean, so he always yeah, pull through at the end, especially WrestleMania great great assignment. Nothing's gonna stop on your playoff, you put on your open playoff jets.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:29

I hope he makes Roman submit. Yeah, that's what I want to see. I want to see submission like that way. It's like, nah, man, you ain't coming back from this.

SPEAKER_07 1:26:38

Don't ever try to your movies, you good, and then don't try to don't try to fight me again. Yeah, he comes back for the sideline next time, man. But who drew McIntyre fighting? Drew McIntyre is fighting. That's what pissed me off. Drew McIntyre was the champion on SmackDown, yeah, and the ratings was going up because of Drew, so he was drawing the crowd and drawing the people. Yeah, that's why I was watching. Guess what? Guess what? Oh, crybaby Cody, yeah. Come in, get another fucking title shot, and end up winning the shit, and he beat McIntyre.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:14

There's no way Cody can beat McIntyre. Like Guy is not that good. Guy is not that good. Is not beating Drew McIntyre on any day.

SPEAKER_07 1:27:31

Drew McIntyre was the champion, but you know, um, what's the other guy? Jacob Fatu, he was kind of in the storyline too. Yeah, they just saw that. Yeah, no, they they still going. So now in WrestleMania is Jacob Fatto. Jacob Fatto is facing Drew McIntyre for WrestleMania. Yeah, without a chance. Instead of Drew McIntyre facing Cody for the His rematch, they took him out the equation and put Randy Orton there. Now, Randy Orton did win legitimately element, um, element, um, elimination chamber, and from that you could choose your um you're going to WrestleMania to fight the champion. So Randy was assuming he was gonna fight Drew McIntyre, so he was getting ready. He was like, Oh, I could do whatever the fuck I want, and it'll make sense because it's Drew, but now Cody stepped in the picture, it's like everyone is like Womp Womp.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:31

That's what it is for me.

SPEAKER_07 1:28:32

It's a big and then they were talking about the story arc is the same story arc, it's the same story arc, but they threw in Pat McAfee, and McAfee is is doing a horrible job translating this story, so it's just been a whole bench bunch of shit. Actually, wrestling fans have been complaining about this storyline the most because it was actually kind of good if you just kept Cody and Randy just do their thing because they are professionals, you know. I didn't even know Cody was a part of AEW and he started it. So learning a few things out there. Oh, so he quit, he got fired from WWE one time, ran off the independent work, and then started AEW. It was Vince McMahon who talked to him back to the uh wrestling. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:23

That's what I'm saying. Like, there is the politics behind wrestling at this point. So the other side of wrestling that I mean, I understand what they're trying to do with this whole WWE WrestleMania thing is that all of these these the the the non-wrestlers that are in WrestleMania, celebrities, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:29:39

So they put little Yachty and social media Williams, the YouTubers, and all these guys, they trying to make things popular and putting them in actual storylines, yeah, where they don't belong. No one wants to see Pat McAfee and fucking jelly roll. Like, what the fuck are we watching? Like, I want to see that shit, but you know what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:01

I want to see oost versus oost.

SPEAKER_09 1:30:08

I want to see Jay versus um, I want to see ooose versus killer.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:12

I want to see oops versus killer.

SPEAKER_07 1:30:14

I want to see oops versus nah oost.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:16

That was it. That was the best marketing that I've seen in a long time.

SPEAKER_07 1:30:21

Now that's how you do a promo, y'all. Or they call it a run. That's what that's what I've seen. Um, Jay Uso showed up on Cameron, it is what it is podcast, and um, yeah, they did a run. So, you know, Cameron played the role, he wasn't too impressed with oops. Yeah, man. You ain't the rock, man. I don't smell what the oops is cooking, man. That shit was hilarious, yeah. Man, it's like he said, You all right over there?

SPEAKER_09 1:30:49

So, you yeah, you alright? It's like, hey man, all right.

SPEAKER_07 1:30:53

I feel like it was real. Oh, yeah, it was really beautiful how they set it up. And Cameron is a very good, you know, he's a good antagonizer. So he was pissing this dude out. Scott got up and grabbed him, and yeah, it was a one-two, but it was very dramatic. Everyone got up. I don't know if they all was a part of it, but the way I don't know either, because it didn't seem like it.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:19

I mean, I unless they all can act, but you know, yeah, yeah, that shit wasn't funny.

SPEAKER_10 1:31:24

I'm watching, I knew what was happening. That's the worst part. I'm watching this, like, oh, this is about to be a promo. This is about to be about the fight, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:31:33

And the way they the it hit the media, like, yeah, wrestler be the podcast host, camera on getting an altercation. I'm like, oh, this is great. This is great, this is great.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:45

That's where wrestling is. They needed it, but it ain't gonna say the rest of the matches. But when when when when killer show up, but that's for killer. It's gonna be for killer.

SPEAKER_07 1:31:58

Now killer is intertwined with it, and now that's the only real nigga that into infiltrated and did it, in my opinion. It's like, all right, you're about to get that money, yeah. You're about to get that wrestling money, money, man. Because that's what they want to be a part of is sports, yeah. They're about to try to be common, so they're on ESPN shows and podcasts. So Cameron does sports, so it's a natural show with wrestling. You could be a part of the show, and that's why I like wrestling because you could be a part of the show.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:29

Anybody can, yeah. Anybody can if you want some suit, the best is even funny, yeah. Hey, is he gonna hey is is is Cameron gonna come out in the outfit that he wore when he was um playing basketball on the court against Jim Jones.

SPEAKER_10 1:32:42

He'll come out in his suit, his dress shoe.

SPEAKER_07 1:32:48

That's gonna be his dress.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:56

I cannot remember. I'm sure he was.

SPEAKER_07 1:32:58

If he was, he needs to wear that outfit, wherever he had on the worst.

SPEAKER_11 1:33:01

He needs to wear the pink Ric Flair jacket.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:03

He need the pink, he need the pink fur, fur, and then like like just pink it up.

SPEAKER_07 1:33:09

He just needs to pink it up, bro.

SPEAKER_11 1:33:10

They just come out ready with that.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:12

Actually, he'd be a part of the heart foundation. Hey, there you go. He'd be a part of the heart foundation, come out with the good with the pink. No, that shit was crazy. That that made my day, and shout out to Cam for that one because that was a good look. That's the type of shit that I would be pushing if I was able to write for um WWE because, like, you bringing in an element that merges reality with fiction, so it's hard to tell. The line gets blurred, which makes it that much more interesting. But when you take a character that you don't believe, and maybe the young people believe in some of them cats, I don't know, but nobody's feeling these things, they don't.

SPEAKER_07 1:33:49

People complain. No, nobody's feeling these things. This is our corporate shit. Jay Uso and Cameron. That's Cameron hustling and doing what he has to do.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:56

I'm sure him and I'm sure that he fuck with Jay. I'm sure they fuck with each other.

SPEAKER_07 1:33:59

Yeah, they fuck with each other, they cool, they're cool. Yeah, since everyone else bringing something, you know, why not? You know, I got Cameron dipset, so it you know, it is what it is. So I'll rock with that. There's another match I am interested in, Oba Femi versus Brock Lesnar. Um, two yeah, I okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:19

I agree with that one. That's that big black ass, the big black, yeah. The big Nigerian thing, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:34:25

Only us we can say that, all right. I don't want to hear no other sports podcasts say that shit, but yeah, only us. I got money on Oba Femi. They really pushing this dude to be the next big guy. Man, he's huge, yeah. He's huge, he could toss bodies, he's tossing bodies, bro. So, and Brock is one of my favorite dudes in it, you know. I mean, so Brock always been the big brolic, untouched.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:51

See, that's my Drew McIntyre. I think Drew would put um Brock on his ass if they let them cut up.

SPEAKER_07 1:34:56

You think Drew would put Brock on his ass? Yeah, I got you.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:59

I got you, and they won't let, but see, they don't push that's what I'm saying. Like, these writers are missing the mark. Yeah, I got like Drew, Drew was built at one point, like he was the guy that would have the fits because he would win by technicality without whooping people's ass the whole match. So, as big as he is, and knowing that that he's got this element to him, and them not using him to the full potential, like taking the belt away right from right before WrestleMania to me, that's that was both. That was both, and then giving it to like the same old usual suspects, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:35:30

That's what it's the John Cena method to me. It's like this is corny now, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:40

Yeah, what we need this guy doing that for, like, nah. So them that's what first turned me off was when when when he lost the belt to record, I was like, I ain't watching no more. I stopped because I was like, that was my whole point. That was the whole point. I wanted to see, I wanted to see some fresh talent in the headline. If you think about it, we don't have any fresh talent in any of the headlining matches. That's whack. That's whack. Like, like that would have been a first timer at WrestleMania with a belt, and a person that's worthy, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_07 1:36:11

Oh, Drew McIntyre, like I said, he was the champ, and motherfuckers was watching the show. He was getting it was actual numbers. This was reported when he was there. He was getting ratings, people was paying attention, it was a fresh face, people been waiting on and he was shitting on him. Those but he's like, Fuck all y'all, y'all was booing me last week. Like he was shitting on him. It was very and Drew McIntyre very entertaining. He's actually was dope, and when they did pull the championship just to give it back to Cody, yeah, that's weak. I was like, All right, man, I'm straight.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:48

Turn me off, man. I'm good, man. So I want WWE to know that that outright that they lost ratings from they lost my viewership in that moment, and I'll pick it up when I like for it, they're paying for it.

SPEAKER_07 1:37:02

Those tickets to WrestleMania and Vegas ain't popping. They had to make a fee say, Hey, we got 25% off. They were selling the shit like fucking deals and cutting deals with the crowd.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:13

I'm glad I didn't buy tickets in advance because I would have been mad. I don't have enough confidence in wrestle in WWE right now because I mean I'm loving the indie circuit, so I got no complaints there. Like, I love the Midwest circuits, I love the Chicago circuits. I watch more of that on YouTube than I and in live than I do wrestling on from WWE. So, like right now, they gotta prove themselves to me, and this is what I was worried about. I was like, these cats that's running the WWE are not, they were they were privileged and entitled, you know. The people I'm talking about Triple H, I'm talking about The Rock. These are privileged and titled people, man, and they're running it like Hollywood. Yeah, and it's not that's not wrestling, man. You you're not gonna tell me very still, yeah. You're not gonna tell me that that you're gonna that the two people who are in Street Fighter just happen to be fighting at in championship matches. Like, get the fuck out of here. Nah, not no one.

SPEAKER_09 1:38:12

Hell no, I just gotta say that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_10 1:38:16

You gotta really peep the game. You got gal in the Cuba, you gotta peep game, man. It's like it's just like what? Like, are you serious?

SPEAKER_07 1:38:26

Well, they can't be doing nothing, they're in movies.

SPEAKER_09 1:38:29

They can't be man.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:32

All you have to do is have Cody show up as Guile and not even have to wrestle nobody. That would have been enough. Let Guy host, let Guy be the host. You see what I'm saying? Let Guy and Akuma show up as Guy and Akuma and host the fucking WrestleMania like it's a Street Fighter event, WrestleMania, Street Fighter.

SPEAKER_07 1:38:49

That would have been they never did a crossover like that.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:52

That would have been perfect.

SPEAKER_07 1:38:54

That would have been dope.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:56

You ain't gotta have them in no matches, you ain't gotta interrupt the matches that was already lined up.

SPEAKER_07 1:39:00

I would have brought dude play Zangif up in that bitch. Like, all right, Zangief.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:05

Well, that's a bit much to ask for Jason Mamore to show up. Jason Mamore is Blanca, not Zangif. Oh, yeah, you're talking about Zangif. No, that guy that acts as Zangifief. If that's the case, you probably could have brought a lot of them in.

SPEAKER_07 1:39:17

Brought the whole cast, really. I mean, it's WrestleMania. And they're doing promo spots for cinema from the same actually location at this time.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:25

They missed, they missed the boat on it. They missed it because, like WrestleMania with two wrestlers in Street Fighter, instead of making them headlining the matches, they should have had them being Street Fighter characters and even had a match between the two of them. Yeah, had them match. I would have had them that would have been the street fighter. That would have been the street fighter match, and not even have it in the ring, have it all outside and shit somewhere. The street fight, a street fight.

SPEAKER_07 1:39:51

Yeah, you have a street fight. That would have been two street gal uh in a street fight in WWE style. I would have gone for that.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:00

I would have loved that, and then we would have got the matches we wanted. So that means that Drew would have kept the title.

SPEAKER_07 1:40:05

Drew would have went against, I guess, Randy Orton, and that would have been perfect because they the two legend killers, yeah, two legend killers and two niggas that just take it to the extreme.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:16

Yeah, that was that's amazing that they missed that opportunity. Like, what are y'all writing?

SPEAKER_07 1:40:22

Perfect, perfect. Now, um, Seth Rollins did get hurt, so he had to recover and come back, so they couldn't do the CM Punk versus Seth Rollins. That happens often. That happened the last time CM Punk was feuding because Seth actually was the champion. It would have been Seth versus, I guess, Roman Reigns or no, it would have been Seth versus CM Punk.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:41

Yeah, it would have been Seth versus CM Punk. Yeah, yeah. Seth is scared of CM Punk. I don't I don't know if people know that.

SPEAKER_09 1:40:46

Is all good?

SPEAKER_02 1:40:47

Yeah, he is. He's scared of CM Punk. Yeah, this is not the first time like where they were going towards a WrestleMania and Ceth.

SPEAKER_07 1:40:56

He didn't even go at CM Punk. He did say he wanted the belt back, but he he didn't go with CM Punk off the rip. Yeah, I would have gone straight because he lost his belt off of technicality of injury. So I would have went straight back to my belt.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:08

Like, hey, he can't be he can't be CM Punk. He can't. There is no there is no universe where Seth can go toe-to-toe in a real wrestling match with CM Punk. Not no choreography with a plan ending, but an actual match, a freestyle match. Oh, yeah, CM Punk will murk his ass. He ain't got enough ammunition ammunition for CM Punk. He don't got no power for CM Punk. He don't have enough, he don't man. CM Punk will be countering everything. CM Punk would fuck up Steph Rollins. Uh I'm standing on that. CM Punk will fuck up a lot of people in a freestyle match.

SPEAKER_07 1:41:45

Hey, hey, Roman did get to him, say he's getting old. You say you old though. You old. He's saying that shit. He's saying that. He's saying that. I'm Jordan brand, nigga. He said he's Jordan brand. I'm Jordan brand though, nigga. You ain't Jordan.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:00

Right, right. CM Punk CM Punk is aging, but also CM Punk is a tough ass bastard. Yes. So, and the beauty of it is that CM Punk don't have don't have to CM Punk was never a flashy wrestler. He was a technical wrestler.

SPEAKER_05 1:42:15

He's a technical guy.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:17

Technical guys can stay in the ring now forever because they ain't got to do shit but yoke you up. Right. As long as they stay in the gym keeping strong and keeping their grip tight, they got you. Now CM Punk is the greatest of all time for me. Oh he is, he really is. Like if you he is the only wrestler that can do everything.

SPEAKER_07 1:42:36

So, but you still not interested in this match from WrestleMania.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:39

I'm interested in his match because it's CM Punk. I'm not interested in how they set it up.

SPEAKER_07 1:42:43

Okay, gotcha.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:44

That's my problem is see, wrestling for me is not just the match, it's the setup, it's the story, it's the arcs, it's how everything is playing out. And so once you lose the narration for me, it's just a match, and I'll watch it. But when I'm not motivated, like wrestling WrestleMania is on right now. I don't care. Yeah, I want to see Jay. I want to see Jay Oose.

SPEAKER_07 1:43:06

I'm probably watch Uso do his thing because I want to see if he goes, like I said, for cuz of Cam, because Killer Cam just sold the ticket for me on that. If I knew Killer Cam was showing up, I would go like I'll killer y'all with the last minute sometimes. But um, gotta do this in weeks, killer. You gotta do this weeks ahead and and really build your story.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:27

But they did it when they needed to, and that's the whole thing. What oos is doing is he's increasing it, increasing his value in the WWE, yeah, his value and his viewership, and that was very smart because while everybody else is declining, he managed to step up and and prove his value and worth to the WWE. Like y'all sinking a ship, and I'm keeping it afloat.

SPEAKER_07 1:43:46

Yeah, it worked like a charm. So um that and like I said, Oba Femming, that's what I want to see. I want to see that too.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:54

But I'm also tired of Brock and Wrestling, too.

SPEAKER_07 1:43:58

Well, he's retired. This is his he's he's he's about to retire too. So that's what I'm saying. He's passing the torch to Oba Femming. So this is Oberfemming the next big thing that's him, and I but let's rock, let's let's rock with that. Right, as long as he don't get hurt, he's good, and um yeah, Gunther, Gunther, one of my favorites too. He's going against Seth, but I don't that story came out of nowhere, too. So see, but Gunther also will whoop Seth ass.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:26

He will, yeah. It's like, what's the point of that? Like, that's what I'm saying. Like, putting Seth in certain matches is like, why?

SPEAKER_07 1:44:34

I don't know. Um, he's just trying to fill in the spot, I guess. But uh Gunther should have been wrestling somewhere.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:40

I think it's erotic shit. I'm gonna be 100% with you. Somewhere homoerotic. I think that there's a certain look that them niggas at the top of the WWE like, like they like how certain men look. Oh they're attracted to certain men. Seth Rollins has that look. He looks like what they like. I like you, and I want you. And and and you know, I'm just just being honest about that. That observation. There is a certain look that seems to re repeat in the WWE, and those people get the special options, special breaks, and Seth is that dude. He looks like Cody is that look too. Cody is that look, yep. Yep, there's a certain look. That's the that's the look they like.

SPEAKER_07 1:45:23

That look, you know what I mean? So I guess, yeah, what you're saying.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:27

You know, like because like Seth Rollins, you know, ravishing Rick Rude, you know, you can really go back through like Zolf Ziggler was Mr. Perfect, or any like they have they they be they be trying to recreate their their their favorite men, you know what I'm saying? And that's fine. Don't do that. That's bit it's supposed to be business. You're not supposed to put your personal interest and your personal preferences in front of the business. Like, or or unless it's something else, I don't know. Maybe there's contractual obligations that keep putting these certain dudes like imagine like that, like you like how the rock has that clause in his Hollywood contracts that he can't die or can't be beaten in a fight. So, what if these dudes got contracts? Like, who would ever agree to a WWE contract where it says that I get to come back whenever I want and fight whoever I want?

SPEAKER_07 1:46:12

Like, no, um, I think that is I think that I think that is negotiable. Um, it just depends on your status and how much money you bring in. If you bring in revenue, if you bring it in, let's say Stone Cold, right? And yeah, at the time, Attitude Era, and now we're going to Ruthless Aggression Era, where Stone Cold he's getting older, but now you could renegotiate your contract. There probably is some clauses that you um appeal. Yeah, I don't want to lose. I don't want to lose no WrestleMania's ever. I don't want to lose no WrestleMania.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:51

I would never agree to that contract. I'll let you go.

SPEAKER_07 1:46:54

I don't want to lose no WrestleMania, bro.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:56

I will let you go before I ever sign a contract.

SPEAKER_07 1:46:58

No, niggas, because you want that money, motherfucker. You are not gonna let me go. I'm your top motherfucking franchise.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:03

Well, let's think about it. Let's think about it though. No, because this this is this is where they fail. This is why other wrestling um industries win. Because when the WWE says, Oh, we're not gonna let John Cena go. So if you let John Cena go, guess what? Somebody else will step up. There will always be somebody. If they had to let Hulk Hogan go earlier, somebody else would have stepped up and it would have been fine. Like Ultimate Warrior, when they took when Ultimate Warrior took Hulk Hogan's Thunder and shut him up, they could have done that anyway, and Ultimate Warrior would have got there, but they didn't want to let Hogan go at first. Then they do that, they hold on to people and won't let them go.

SPEAKER_07 1:47:45

They let Cody go, and Cody went and brought his whole competition to the motherfucking forefront. They had to talk from back into getting back with the WWE. The road don't end with WWE. That's my point. You more than I need you at this point. So if I'm gonna wrestle and spend my time traveling, because you know they don't pay for hotels. I seen an interview with Jay Cargo, they don't pay for hotels, they pay for the ticket, but they don't pay for any everything else. Their attire, their walkout gear, all that shit come out the pocket of the wrestler on a daily basis. So if you're doing this on a weekly basis, you coming out your pocket as well. So it gotta be negotiated, nigga. No, I'm not losing WrestleMania. Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, I ain't doing it.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:30

But see, but also that's why the WWE is the way it is, too.

SPEAKER_07 1:48:33

All right, well, that's and that's why it sucked.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:36

They're making the money.

SPEAKER_07 1:48:38

Nah, they you just said they lose the money from this. I'm thinking on the wrestler side too. You gotta make your chop, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:44

I ain't gonna but see, but that's my if if I prove that I'm a personality, I don't have to have the title all the time and keep the title to be the best. C and Punk did it.

SPEAKER_07 1:48:54

I ain't gotta have the title. I say I ain't losing WrestleMania ever.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:58

That's so now if you put the two people with that same contract at WrestleMania, they can't fight each other. Which was what happened with Brock Lesnar and Undertaker.

SPEAKER_07 1:49:05

It's gonna be a draw, it's gonna be a draw.

SPEAKER_02 1:49:07

Brock Lesnar and Undertaker. It was like both of them can't lose, and now you put them to against each other.

SPEAKER_07 1:49:11

Yeah, that was a stalemate match, that was an ugly match. That was so ugly.

SPEAKER_02 1:49:15

I didn't like that match, yeah. You like like those type of clauses in the entertainment. Like, there are certain people who are not supposed to lose. Okay, I get that Hulk Hogan shit back then, but today huh Undertaker had his streak, but Undertaker had his streak legitimately at WrestleMania, and it was a part of the the the persona that was entertainment for that purpose. So now, but he wasn't he wasn't a title match, he didn't have a it wasn't a title, it was just a winning streak. I'm okay with that, but I'm talking about like title, like I can just come back, like this Cody and stuff coming back and just demand a title. John Cena could come back tomorrow and demand a title match.

SPEAKER_05 1:49:52

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:49:53

Like that's just whack. Yeah, I don't want that.

SPEAKER_07 1:50:00

Quick from Cody, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:01

It's just but he did, but look, they that was do Hollywood shit. John Cena said, Well, I ain't doing a movie right now. Let me go back. And you about to do a movie, let me beat you, and I'll hold this title for you till you come back.

SPEAKER_06 1:50:15

Yeah, yeah, to come back. Then I do peacemaking season, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:50:20

Like this is corny. It's like, what are we really doing right now? You can see it, it's so obvious. And if I can see the the fiction to that degree in the story, it's no longer entertaining.

SPEAKER_07 1:50:31

Well, it's very obvious. Yeah, you're right. You're right. And that's the um fakeness that I look at it when it comes to wrestling because the spontaneous of it, you're supposed that championship's supposed to be up in the air all times, nigga. Like, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 1:50:44

Like, I shouldn't know that you're gonna win before the match.

SPEAKER_07 1:50:47

Yeah, it shouldn't be no predictable motherfucker. I always want running around with that shit every time he appears on on the show. Now he gotta have the bell had a title match immediately. Come on, man. We ain't we ain't with that. I I prefer the B lister sometimes to win. That's why I like Drew McIntyre. I ain't even a B lister, but he was on his way to be man.

SPEAKER_02 1:51:09

He was a C lister for a long time, and he was whooping people ass, and they still would not give him a shot. That was years ago, so we're talking like 10 years ago. Like Drew McIntyre has been building himself up to prove that he's worthy, and they just wouldn't give him his shot. And see, like that's what I'm saying. Like, when you get into the wrestlers on a certain level, like CM Punk don't need choreography. CM Punk can can freestyle a match because he will do some shit to you. Like, put the people like that. I want the real matches. Randy Orton don't need choreography. You know, that's why that that that CM Punk match is gonna be dope. It is gonna be dope.

SPEAKER_07 1:51:48

Yeah, it's gonna be dope. And um, I got my money on Randy Orton, if anything, um, I watch it.

SPEAKER_02 1:51:55

Randy's slick, yeah, because Randy will pull a rabbit out of his hat, and I don't know how he does it.

SPEAKER_07 1:52:00

He's he could be injured, you never he a snake when that motherfucker hit you with that RKO out of nowhere.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:07

Uh but see, nah, nah, actually, nah, because CM Punk got a reverse for that. I don't know if you ever saw it.

SPEAKER_07 1:52:15

CM Punk that's CM Punk versus Roman Randy. Oh, that's right. CM D Roman Randy.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:19

I want CM Punk versus Randy Orton.

SPEAKER_07 1:52:21

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:22

Randy is good.

SPEAKER_07 1:52:23

Randy's good.

unknown 1:52:24

That'll be dope.

SPEAKER_07 1:52:25

This Randy last run, man. So he needs to win that 15 championship and let his legacy go. Rolling. Or he needs to put somebody on. He did, he put Cody on. Actually, that's the story. See, they fucked up the story. When Cody came to WrestleMania the first time, his mentor was Randy Orton. He did put Cody on, he did put him on, so nah, but he could put on someone else, that'll be cool. But ain't no one got the tenacity like that anymore.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:55

I mean, Cody don't even have it. Nah, Cody tried to have it. I remember when Cody tried to be vicious, America's that shit was corny to me. Yeah, that shit's corny.

SPEAKER_07 1:53:04

Corny Cody was not vicious, and you look at Cody Rose like, nah, he ain't even black.

SPEAKER_03 1:53:15

Hey, hold up.

SPEAKER_02 1:53:17

Hey, what's funny about that is I'm not exactly sure about that.

SPEAKER_07 1:53:21

Oh, they called him the Raheem uh because his dad.

SPEAKER_02 1:53:26

I don't know what his dad was. Yeah, yeah. Like, I don't know if his dad was mixed or what. They got weird hair and everything. I don't know. I don't know. But yeah, like Cody is a let go of the MM blind and uh do rag thrag, nigga.

SPEAKER_07 1:53:44

Do rag thrag.

SPEAKER_06 1:53:46

Do rag Cody.

SPEAKER_02 1:53:48

Listen, no, I forget Cody altogether. Drew McIntyre is Thrag. Really, he is.

SPEAKER_05 1:53:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:53:55

Drew McIntyre. People be trying to come at him and he just be like, Swatting him. Get off of me. Yo beneath me. You know, like Thrag is definitely Drew McIntyre. Like, that's my guy. Like, I've been waiting for him to be the top dog for a minute, and they keep trying to stall him. Because I think what's gonna happen is because everybody else is starting to get older, they're gonna give him the run, but they have to wait because these other guys had to get out the way. But now, like you say, Randy about to go.

SPEAKER_07 1:54:24

Yeah, Randy about to go, so he could fill in that slot of CM Punk is about to be on his way out soon.

SPEAKER_02 1:54:30

Yeah, yeah, that's why. Like all these guys. So now Drew McIntyre is, and I mean, even CM, like, think about it. You was talking about Brock is on his way out. So Drew McIntyre, people like even Gunther, like those are the dudes that are gonna be big.

SPEAKER_07 1:54:43

Yeah, those are the guys, those are the new leaders, like those are the new big baddies. Let Gunther in. He he he got it. Yeah, Drew McIntyre, he got it. I like Gunther too. Gunther yeah, Gunther's brutal. He's gonna fuck around. Oh my god. He's he's brutal.

SPEAKER_02 1:54:59

He reminds me of Randy Orton. Gunther does.

SPEAKER_07 1:55:02

Yes, he does. Yes, he does. He's vicious. His storyline is gonna be really dope because I think he's the one that's gonna retire Brock Lesnar.

SPEAKER_02 1:55:12

I can see that because yeah, I can see that because he's a fighter and he will yeah, he will hurt somebody. Yeah, and he won't stop. Yeah, he won't stop. He will stop you into a blueprint.

SPEAKER_07 1:55:24

And he's very smart. He's wrestling intelligence. Yeah, he's cunning. He's cunning. That's that Randy Orton side. Yeah, so he he could he could trick you, he make you think twice about something like you don't know what he's gonna do. So yeah, Gunther is dope, Drew is dope. Um, Oba Femming is dope. I like Trick Williams, he got great mic control, he's very entertaining when he gets on the mic, when he do interviews, he's very entertaining. He kind of booker T-ish on the skill set, though. I wish he gets some more better moves, you know. Hey man, like a running me to the come on, that's fine.

SPEAKER_02 1:56:03

You don't want you mean you don't like the spinner rooney?

SPEAKER_11 1:56:05

Spinner rooney, nah man, it's funny, but it's not legit, it's hilarious, but but it's not a legit thing, it's not legit. Oh man, you gotta step up the moves, man.

SPEAKER_07 1:56:19

RK, if you ain't on RKO level, you you in the game, man. You in the game, man. You need better better move. So the spinner rooney, spinner rooney, did it. Shout out to Booker T. I met Booker T before that nigga's huge. I thought I had big hands.

SPEAKER_05 1:56:36

That motherfucker.

SPEAKER_07 1:56:38

Uh Booker T remember.

SPEAKER_02 1:56:40

He used to be standing next to Hogan and people like that, like the big dogs, and be like just yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:56:49

So it's like like he's all muscle, he's huge. So um, yeah, man, that's wrestling for you. Uh hey man, um Silver Room Picnic resumes at the saw shed on July 18th. That's crazy work for a pretty penny.

SPEAKER_02 1:57:13

Shout out to um Eric for that. Yeah, I respect that, and I think it's well deserved.

SPEAKER_07 1:57:18

It's well deserved, you know. Um, a lot of folks are complaining on ticket prices and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_02 1:57:24

They don't have to go, that's all I'm gonna say.

SPEAKER_07 1:57:27

They aren't, they're not gonna go. The heads are gonna go because they're not buying a ticket. Yep. Hey, we just report the news, you know. It is what it is. We're the voice of the people, and the people are saying this in regards to that. Because it kind of makes me want to go into um another aspect of the conversation because it's not only that event, but I think events in general where people are at this time, you know, people want to have a good time, people want to go out, they want to support, you know. But can they afford to do this? If you go to a movie nowadays, you're paying them, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:57:59

I'm paying$25 for one for one ticket, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:58:04

For one ticket, and then if it's you and a partner, you pay$50, 60, you're paying money. You're paying money. So um, a lot of people is talking about the roots picnic, you know. This year, Jay-Z coming out the bag, and um, he's hitting the stage. Um his ticket, their tickets is$361. It's the lowest ticket. Other than that, you go.

SPEAKER_02 1:58:24

But that's normal for the roots picnic nowadays. Um but but you gotta understand, and this is what people gotta realize prices, all the stuff all the stuff that comes with these tickets, though, is like you getting in someone who has to pay for everything that's happening. And why shouldn't who's supposed to pay for it? We're supposed to put together a whole event and then let you come in for free and just enjoy it. Like, that's why the silver room had to stop. Yeah, so y'all complain when it stopped. Now y'all complaining that he found a solution to make it work, and y'all still now y'all don't want to pay for it. Yeah, but all of y'all said we'll pay for it, we'll gladly pay for it to help you out. We need to like nah. Y'all better pay for this, man. Y'all better make this work because it deserves to exist, and he deserves to have the expenses covered and not come out of his pocket for y'all.

SPEAKER_07 1:59:14

Absolutely, and I agree with that, and that goes into any event, you know, that I feel like it's well worth it. When we um get into that event space, we want the same support, you know. If you throw in something, yes, you want people to come and support you and support the movement, especially if you were yearning for it and you requesting it, just like you said before. Last time it was differences of community, this time it's on the people now. So it's like, all right, you want to come and come and check us out and be a part of this, then help support and be a part of it. Because you will buy your Jordans, you'll buy your little purses, you'll buy your little buy a whole outfit to go to buy a little car, but you don't want to pay for the event, yeah. But you don't want to pay for the event, so that's crazy. It's the same thing I had the conversation with Corey. It's like, you know, if you want something, us as adults will go and get it. If you want to go somewhere, us as adults will go somewhere and do what we gotta do, and uh get to that point of get what we want. We're manifestors, you know. I mean, it's totally different. If you have an intention in your head that you want to get something, it's gonna come at you. May not come today, but it's gonna come, you know, and you got that intent out there, so it is what it is, folks. Yeah, support all I'm gonna say is support, like but there is a trickery with pricing. Um, live nature, live nation did lose lose that case for monopolizing and doing things with Seat Geek and Scalpers and Sky High ticket prices. It's expense, you know. If you do want to go out and kick it, you want to go if you go to a restaurant, you're paying money, you know. I mean, like anything you do out here, it's like what L said. I go outside, I'm spending money. He did say that. Like, yeah.

SPEAKER_11 2:01:02

Oh, that was funny, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 2:01:04

Yeah, so he's a real one, guys. Shout out to L, he's a real dude. Shout out to him and his family, you know what I mean? He's doing big things, man. I love L. I was since back in the day, man. He's been the same dude, man. He's funny, he's very thorough, but he's about the art too, and he's very passionate and personal with his art as well. So, um, now shout out to L. But yeah, man, to the point, it is expensive to step out here in these streets. So, um, yeah, but if you want to take it to the price of the game, if you want to, yeah, if you want to really support and be a part of something, you have to do diligence.

SPEAKER_02 2:01:41

We're adults here, and and it's some things are worth it because if anybody goes back and think about the experiences they had at any silver room, even the black, even the last one, but notwithstanding, all the earlier ones. If you enjoyed those moments and think about the you didn't really pay to get in, you didn't I ain't even talking about the ones in High Park.

SPEAKER_07 2:01:59

No, we talking about link like one, yeah. In uh Wicker Park, bro. When I used to pull up, that whole alley used to be popping, man. It was all all of us kicking it, you know. The High Park thing is cool, it was super black, and I love that energy, you know what I mean? Of motherfuckers pulling up in that neighborhood and just kicking it, and that one year where the streets were so packed when it was packed, you couldn't do nothing. That was beautiful times, man. That was beautiful, but it started in Wicker. For me, I went to Wicker, and that's where you know I mean, kicking it, and it was the same folks. We were just in a different location, yeah. It was the same air lights, drinking, smoking, supporting, kicking it. The honeys, the ladies now.

SPEAKER_02 2:02:43

Now it's time. Now it's time to collect. Now it's time to collect. Put your money where your mouth is and support a Chicago cultural staple. This is a part of Chicago summer, and we deserve to to to to to invest in our own happiness. You know what I'm saying? We deserve to invest in our own happiness. We gotta pay for it. Now he because think about it.

SPEAKER_07 2:03:05

Now it's not outside, he's paying for a venue, sauce, so that cost, and all the other expenses that come after that and entertainment is no entertainment, the DJ's there. You know, it's gonna be popping where motherfuckers gonna come all over the world, may have spinner there. Shit, you know how it's worth it. It's worth it. You know what I mean? Twilight Tone may pull up, you know. I mean, you never know, you never know who pull up. You know, it might be a D, you never know, might be Kid Capri, you never know who's pulling up to these things because that's how it used to be randoms, but star-studded events in Chicago is the summertime shy. That's what makes the summertime fly. To me, it's the silver room block parties, and um, yeah, man, it's really a blast. So if you're supporting it, support that and support us as well. May 3rd. We are doing the motherfucking live on the wall with our very own in-house Taiwan Davis. Um, we're gonna talk about his life and times. We're gonna talk about their proof, his new album.

SPEAKER_02 2:04:14

We're gonna do a nice listening to it. We're gonna we're gonna give it a good listen and we're gonna we're gonna dissect it with him, yeah, because there's a lot to talk about just in this album alone, let alone the myth and the legend behind Taiwan Davis and the many myriads of um projects and things that he's done. Because you know, when we talk about Chicago list and we talk about Chicago categories, Taiwan is a one-of-one. Yeah, he's a one-on-one. Like he's on actually do a top five list, and he be on all five spots. That's kind of weird.

SPEAKER_07 2:04:46

He'll be on all five. So all you niggas putting up the categories and the list together. Taiwan Davis actually, he got Donald Man. Uh he's the standard, he's the motherfucking, he is the uh fucking the category, he's everything, he's the archetype, he's and and because he do it all, you know. I mean, I'm just not you know glorifying my friend and nothing like that. No, I he does it all, and y'all know that that's why it is what it is with you.

SPEAKER_02 2:05:17

And you'll learn y'all will learn about it in more detail when you pull up to the to the to the listening live on the wall. And where is that? It's gonna be at Parallel Play. Parallel Play is over in Humble Park. It is a listening and learning center, it's a really dope spot. Like, you know, they have listening sessions for different album releases, they have a lot of other curated events there, they have talks there. Um, it's a dope spot to um to hang out, to build, to meet some people um of a of a similar cloth, as I'll say. Um, it's very cultural. So yeah, we're gonna have a great time there. Um, it's gonna be a great event. Um, everybody should pull up. We're gonna have fun. And for those people who watch Flies on the Wall season one um on YouTube, Live on the Wall is a variation of that, but it's it's taking it back a little bit. It's a combination of the Flies on the Wall that we do at the trap, along with what we used to do at Haymarket, Pub and Brewery. But it's a combination of the two, and it's new, it's fresh, it's exciting, and it's hella dynamic. Like this is something different. This is dope. Yeah, this is really dope, and it's a precursor to also what's coming with season two of Flies on the Wall, as well as more live on the wall events that are coming this year, as well as um throughout the very near future.

SPEAKER_07 2:06:29

Yeah, absolutely. We are uh we are cooking, it's airy season, so we just turn it on to fucking fucking stoves and making sure all sterilized and shit, and then we about soda, like I think it's soda, you know what I mean? So uh nah, so we're doing that. Um when I was sleeping on the train.

SPEAKER_06 2:06:50

Oh my god, hey man, hey man, play the beat. When I was sleeping on the train, hey, who booing me, man? Who booing me? Hey man, when I was sleeping on the train.

SPEAKER_07 2:07:00

Shout out to Jonica, man.

SPEAKER_02 2:07:02

Y'all are is he getting old or uh I I got so many things to say, and I got nothing to say about it at the same time, man. This is one of those those situations where I don't even know if it deserves any commentary because I think all the commentary was provided in his own in his own words. Like he what he did is what he did, and there's people that stand on it with him and support that, and there's people who don't. I'm just gonna tell you like this, like what we're talking about. If I'm paying to see your show, it's because I respect your creativity, your craft. And yes, that's I guess that's there's something to the lyrics that you wanted people to hear them a cappella. However, take notes from KRS one, take notes from the great staking before you nah.

SPEAKER_07 2:07:53

Don't take no notes for KS1, man. African Babata, man.

SPEAKER_02 2:07:57

Hey man, hey, he didn't support that. He was he's on record for saying that. No, he didn't, he's on record for saying he didn't support it.

SPEAKER_07 2:08:03

Hey, African Babata should not be judged. He didn't know that.

SPEAKER_02 2:08:06

No, that was that was that was in one that was one conversation, but he went into details in an interview, and his exact words was um, that's my friend, but he says he has to own up to what he did, and he got to address that. And he said that's not for me to address. And he's and the lady was like, Well, he it shouldn't take away from the legacy. She was like, Well, the legacy is one thing, but he has to address what has been done and he got to pay for it.

SPEAKER_07 2:08:28

Yeah, African may buy the rap, man. He didn't rap, man.

SPEAKER_02 2:08:31

He just did uh um no, he was an MC. He did, he didn't do rap in terms of modern concept of rap, he did MC rap before. No, it's MC, like crowd control on stage for like while a DJ is doing his thing. Yeah, the the old the classic version of MCN. Um, and he did that while he was DJing, you know.

SPEAKER_07 2:08:52

Boom, fuck that nigga, man. Hey man, fuck that shit. We we we Chicago, our own culture is different. I know hip hop started and all that blah blah blah shit, but I think hip hop was gonna start regardless, just like I what you was just talking about. Fuck that shit. I ain't putting none, I ain't giving no none of that shit, man. Because nah, these abuses that comes in all shape, devils come in all shapes and forms.

SPEAKER_02 2:09:15

All absolutely, and yeah, and the truth of the matter is it's not, it's definitely a um, it's one of New York's secrets.

SPEAKER_07 2:09:23

I met a rapper, I'm gonna say his name on his name, but I met a rapper during that time that news hit. Well known rapper, well known rapper, very well-known rapper. Um, I asked that rapper, hey rapper, y'all New York niggas knew about this shit a long time ago, didn't you? He said yes and laughed, he started laughing first, said yes, and started laughing even more. So I was like, Oh shit, you New York niggas are grimy, and he even he started butting. That was the joke, you start busting up and shit. I was like, dude, y'all knew about this shit all this time, so yeah, there's people coming out saying about everything about him wave was doing, you know.

SPEAKER_02 2:10:13

Oh let me tell you something. There's stories, even big, like we've heard of the stories about the the parties, not even the Diddy parties, we just talking about the straight, straight hip-hop parties involving famous rappers engaging in in things with other famous rappers, and and that was a thing that was going around now. That lady rappers, yeah, huh? Not the lady rappers either, no, not the lady rappers, but what we're dealing with is there is a similar like New York is the place where the Epsteins and all these people thrive. This is where they come from, the wine, so we gotta be very self-aware when we try to omit it's industry mixed in exactly culture, and that's where NFC's at.

SPEAKER_07 2:11:00

All that evil devilish shit is industry.

SPEAKER_02 2:11:03

It's in all the industries because you know, the Corey Haynes and Corey Filman and River Phoenix and and all of them cats, and what happened with them in that industry to this day, you know what I'm saying? Like, so these these the modeling industry, the fashion industry, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 2:11:20

All of this, all of the above.

SPEAKER_02 2:11:22

All it there's this movie I just watched called Um Triangle of Sadness, and it's about a young, um aspiring model, like a young man. He's a model, he wants to be a model. And the beginning of the movie, he's sitting at a um a model casting where they're like all the models gotta do their chashay around to get picked for the um for the modeling event. And this this guy, this um, this gay guy comes to him and says, You know, you know, how do you like it? You know, you're walking around and you're being, you know, you're meet for the gay, for all of us gays, you know. Like it's basically he's telling him, like, yeah, you're here, and you're here for eye candy for all of us men who. Like men, and you're the young fresh meat. Oh wow! And so all these different industries, this is what was going on. We had like we talk about the music industry, which starts beyond hip hop. We're talking about rock, we're talking about R. We talking about all well. I don't think they get around in jazz like that. I mean, but it might have been oh well. I mean, I thought you just meant no. I'm talking about on the mainstream level of industry. Oh, you mean music industry? Oh, yeah, this this these things, these these the molestation of young boys and young girls, yeah, yeah. But especially like we know that they like young boys, yeah, yeah, yeah. They they they particularly prey on young boys.

SPEAKER_05 2:12:37

It's the same thing that's happening in the Catholic church other types of girls, so is it's all of that, it's all of that with the girls, and it's all of that.

SPEAKER_02 2:12:48

I mean, we like we can go into all the industries, that's what I'm saying. So, at the core of all these industries, which are either prevalent, you know, the industries aren't in Chicago, period. No, they're not, they're in New York, they're in LA. That's where the that's where the industries are headquartered, and the wealthy, the billionaires who be on this fuckery are all in these places. So if you're playing in those spaces and you're in those industries, you're going to those parties, you're amongst that crowd, you're gonna be invited. You can upset or re accept or reject, you're gonna get solicited. We know that you know 50 has talked about being solicited. There's other people who have talked about being solicited by other billionaires and rich people in that space. The actors have talked about being solicited by the billionaires and the rich people. We know that the um the the the models and the fashion designers are involved in solicitations um of underage people. So we're talking across all industries, this is a thing. And so at the end of the day, we need to really know where we stand and what we're promoting. Because while everybody asking for the Epstein list, it's like, what you gonna do with the list after you see it? Are you gonna stop supporting the people who are on that list for real? Like, are you gonna R. Kelly them? And y'all ain't really R. Kelly R.

SPEAKER_07 2:14:03

Kelly, because they say if they expose everyone on that list, this country won't be running.

SPEAKER_02 2:14:08

No, no, if they arrest, if they arrest and putting everybody in jail, the country won't be running. Yeah, but the list itself is just saying the names of people that are that have somehow connections to this situation. But so far, nothing has been done to anyone whose name has come out from that list.

SPEAKER_07 2:14:24

Well, you know, there's politics behind that and the powers that be and distractions, well, they are the powers that be. That's the whole point. They are the powers. That's what I'm saying. If they went by the list, they'll be arresting themselves, right?

SPEAKER_02 2:14:37

But now we're talking about we're talking about the court of public opinion. Now, what are y'all gonna do about it? Because that's the that's the question that comes next. So, what I'm suggesting is if you don't agree with the randomness of Biggie's lyrics being being a little odd, if you don't agree with other rappers who have been a part of stories, if you don't agree with the way Hollywood does what it does, if you don't agree with the way the film and the fashion industry does what it does, then why aren't you supporting us you we instead? Why aren't you supporting culture power and and super sounds and all these other independent local level like level of of artistry and creativity that exists? Why aren't you supporting that and then you don't have to worry about that? Take the money away from those industries. People always like, well, we don't support Target, but are you going to the mom and pop store for your groceries or are you going to another equivalent big box?

SPEAKER_05 2:15:30

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_02 2:15:30

You don't go to Target, but you go to Walmart.

SPEAKER_05 2:15:32

Walmart, right?

SPEAKER_02 2:15:33

You know, Walmart is doing what what um Live Nation did.

SPEAKER_07 2:15:37

Yeah, Monopoly.

SPEAKER_02 2:15:38

Walmart, Walmart connects with the actual um distributors and works out deals to make sure that they jack up charge higher prices to other dis other stores so that that Walmart can have lower prices than everybody else. Walmart pays lower for the wholesale price of things because they have greased the palms of distributors, and that forces the other people to up their prices because they have to pay more for the product. So, yeah, you don't support Target, but if you go to Walmart, how is that better?

SPEAKER_07 2:16:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:16:13

So I'm saying go back to the indies, man. Let's go, let's go independent, let's support independent media like Fly Nerd Group, let's support independent record labels like Culture Power, let's support independent everything, let's support each other for real. You know, if this is the fall of America, which it looks like, then the only way for us to make it through this is for us to start being our own, invested in ourselves. Self-employment, self-industry, self-actualization. To me, that comes with knowledge itself. You go once you know up, once you know yourself and you know that you up against the evils, then you gotta you gotta address how you navigate because you are you making deals with these people that you saying are the enemy? Are you cohabitating and and and and making money with these people? Because as long as they make money off of you making money, then they're gonna continue to have a higher power. Yeah, it's it's always the shit is gonna stay the same.

SPEAKER_07 2:17:10

And I'm telling us all the time, we need to get in the tech, we need to get in the computers. Elon Musk is suing for the right to discriminate against black, um, against color black people, algorithm-wise, you know, is AI. Um, is a AI wants the same treatment of us, uh, how it treats us in real life. When it the perception of racism of you know, denying us, denial because we're black, self, uh, you know, it's AI related, bro. So AI is gonna be discriminating against us in any type of format. And he's um they're programming this. So Elon Musk is suing, I think, Colorado, because they have a uh rules of state that say where you can't discriminate in certain programs when it comes to AI and stuff like that. And he's actually suing because he wants that same treatment when it comes to regards of programming things, like these automatic cars and shit. You know what I mean? Might run us over, you know what I'm saying? Might might do some shit, reckless shit with us, or you know, cabs passing us by and shit, or not even recognizing our facial features and the distinctness of us, you know what I mean? Versus a European European Anglo-Saxon type of uh makeup structure. So a lot of things lies with go in the ties with that. While y'all talking about Usher and fucking uh Chris Brown and shit, Elon Musk is suing to discriminate us on algorithms and shit like that. So uh that's deep careful.

SPEAKER_02 2:18:52

That's deep when the 10% do as the 10% do.

SPEAKER_07 2:18:58

And there was an online rape academy, and 62 million men supposed. There was an online rape academy, which there was an online seminar of people teaching people how to take advantage of to you know what to do. It was reported that 62 million men has subscribed.

SPEAKER_10 2:19:23

62 million men, yes, sir.

SPEAKER_07 2:19:26

Yes, sir, yes, sir, yes, sir. 62 million, so that's why women say they go with the bear.

SPEAKER_10 2:19:37

Wait a minute.

SPEAKER_02 2:19:39

Okay, so this is legal. How is that legal? Like, could I do a seminar online saying how to how to cook crack?

SPEAKER_09 2:19:46

You can do a seminar, whatever.

SPEAKER_02 2:19:48

No, it's illegal. You can't do anything that's you can't do things if it's illegal, you can't do any type of participation in it. So, how is that allowed? Um man, y'all listen, man. Y'all better pay attention, yo, for real, for real. For real. Y'all better pay for it. We're in the future, man.

SPEAKER_07 2:20:08

We're in the future, man. All this shit applies, it could go right over someone's head, and the seed planted, the thing is done, the catastrophe is done. It's just waiting for the results at this point, man.

SPEAKER_02 2:20:22

Man, listen. When you so what I suggest as a counter to that, um, sisters, get y'all some martial arts training, get y'all some get y'all gun licenses, get registered. Yes, yes. Um, yeah, get your concealed carry. Yeah, keep you a little, keep you a little your dig in your in your pendies.

SPEAKER_07 2:20:42

Keep you a little dig in your pennies, you know what I mean? Because you know, these niggas out here be careful when you go out to these events, be careful when you go out to these clubs. You talk to these strangers, don't leave your drinks out in the open, don't leave your cup laying down. Always your dad told you. Yeah, for real. Should I have told you? Always be aware. Don't let these strangers in your house watch out for open drinks, and this niggas offering you drinks and shit off of his custom. Now, watch how that shit was created. You know what I mean? Watch all that shit, be careful. No, that's crazy. Teaching niggas how to do this and how to successfully pull off how to take advantage of it.

SPEAKER_02 2:21:22

Is that another level of the red pill?

SPEAKER_07 2:21:25

Yeah, yeah, yeah. If if this was the ultimate, I was quite sure those type of people are in that in that in that I didn't know about this. You didn't know about this. Yeah, none of us knew about this shit. This was reported on the internet by women that um peeped this and found this.

SPEAKER_02 2:21:46

So, how did the women find out about it? That's crazy, they ain't do a good job at hiding it. Yeah, like an idiot. Okay, so get you and I know a lot of women don't like guns. Fuck that.

SPEAKER_07 2:21:58

Nah, that you gotta protect it like this.

SPEAKER_02 2:22:00

Is we we in a different era now. All that moral conundrum about guns, guns don't kill people, people kill people.

SPEAKER_07 2:22:06

People kill people. If you want to get killed, then uh nah, fuck that. Protect yourself, protect yourself in whatever way. Some martial arts, take some do all of it, all of the above. What's that talk mcrob? You know, you learn all that learn that shit because that's definitely some self-defense shit where uh you could break an arm or two, you know. I mean, yeah, and I mean drag thrag, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:22:34

Y'all get y'all get y'all like don't just go to the gym for the looks, man.

SPEAKER_07 2:22:37

Be prepared to use the muscles that you just use those muscles, shape those muscles, develop those muscles, and so get the boxes.

SPEAKER_02 2:22:46

Oh, it's gonna it's gonna look good, you know. I'm saying the byproduct is the byproduct, but the primary product is protect yourself because look, we cannot be everywhere, and men need to be more protective of women specifically, but we can't be everywhere at all time, especially when you say 62 million. Yeah, that's a and I don't go to clubs, so I ain't in the club. I can't protect you there, I can't protect you there.

SPEAKER_07 2:23:07

I can't protect you there at these events. I ain't everywhere. I ain't if I was Superman invincible, I'll do it, baby.

SPEAKER_02 2:23:13

But I can't nah because Superman don't even do that. He was probably at the event.

SPEAKER_07 2:23:18

Yeah, he was at the event.

SPEAKER_11 2:23:19

He was he was there at the event as Clark, man. He's a punk ass.

SPEAKER_08 2:23:22

He was like, I'm just trying to, I'm just trying to be a reporter. No, no.

SPEAKER_07 2:23:25

I'm just reporting this, and uh wow, this is interesting, Lois. I'll see you later.

SPEAKER_02 2:23:32

Right. No, that's that's that's some sadistic fucking that's some that's devilishment in his purest form. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? How to master the original man or the original woman.

SPEAKER_07 2:23:44

Yeah, I mean, you ask how clans have meetings and all this shit today, it's the same difference, bro. It's the same if you want to do it, you're gonna do it. We're adults, and if you want to do it, you have the intent, then it's gonna happen because you wanna do it, and that's all what it is. Nah, that's all what it is. So, with that said, and then you know, motherfuckers out here in these streets after that. Yes, women, be careful. This is a PSA to the black woman and the black man, everyone be careful because um, you know, it's that story that um influencer went out of town, went out the one that was with the um yeah, with the white white guy at the um and then she hung herself and shit. She hung herself. You went on a vacation to hang we don't even do that, we don't do that shit.

SPEAKER_02 2:24:38

Black dog when you get hung, that means noose like we don't resonate with that vibe, like that's not our vibe. Hey, we don't do that, yeah. We don't do that. We don't do that, like no, that's not how it gets down. So, you know, and and the worst part is is that you know, the media can easily immediately say it was a suicide. She was she hung herself, you know, and we it who who falls for that, like y'all gotta understand how serious this is right now. We're not just talking about the climate of entertainment and the media and the social media and casual shit. We're talking about the this permeates all levels of our society. This is a corrupt and wicked society, yes, period.

SPEAKER_07 2:25:22

There's no way I always say the system was never designed for us. No, it's not. It's never designed for us.

SPEAKER_02 2:25:27

It wasn't designed for us, it's not designed for um culture, it's designed for exploitation, um, oppression, and abuse, and capitalism, that which is all of that, all of that in one nutshell.

SPEAKER_07 2:25:43

So um, yeah, we have to protect ourselves, we have to be careful out here. I know we talk about the fun distracting things, but there's also a real world that we try to um show y'all to and let y'all know. Don't get all too caught up in the hype because there's always something going on in the background that's just as dangerous, clearly, just as dangerous. We got a lot of distractions this year, tons of them. I love them.

SPEAKER_02 2:26:08

I love it. A lot of distractions, and not enough. You know, you have motherfuckers going around the moon and coming back. You got you know, did they?

SPEAKER_07 2:26:16

Some people question that, you know.

SPEAKER_02 2:26:18

But I don't look, look, there's there's a thin line between uh rationality and and insanity. Um like there's like the question that I always ask is like, what reason do they have to lie about that? Nobody asked, nobody cared. The average person. So have we they said the first time we traveled to the moon was false. Yeah, but who is they, and who what qualifications do they have to determine that? That's the thing. The they are not much uh not very intelligent because half the time the they also believe that the world is flat and that God is a mystery. So it's kind of like you put all that together, I can't really trust them. Like, I'm not gonna run with anybody's opinion on this stuff. Like, if you don't have facts to prove that it's not true, can't run with the theory that it's not true either. Because then we we're doing the same thing, which is spilling falsehood. Like, there's like it's like someone saying, I like there's an airplane. No, it's not. Like, well, how do you know? Because we can't fly. Because we can't fly in the sea for us. So it's like we know that we can fly in space. That's not impossible to believe. We know we like the only way that we the people the the root of the people who don't believe in space travel and going to the moon is the is rooted in the people who believe that the world is flat. Yeah, they don't believe we can escape the firm. Yeah, you know, and and at the end of the day, um, we talked about this before. If you want to just science, just observation in nature disproves the flat earth theory, right? Because anything that's in a that is in a um free fall or in a um in a floating state takes on a spherical shape. That's why raindrops are around, that's why snowflakes are around. So in space where they're in a vacuum, if you put anything in that in that space, it becomes its gravity. Its center becomes the the nucleus of its of where its weight is held, and therefore everything converges towards the center, which is what produces the round objects in the first place. So, like if if we say that science is real by observation, because that's really the root of science, is what we observe through our senses. I can't observe everything through my senses, so then I have to start using mathematical calculations to figure out what I can't sense. But I can see fucking round raindrops when they fall. So I can see, and then when things go down the drain, they go in a swirling circle motion, everything forms a sphere. Yeah, so why would it suddenly not do that with this planet? But when I look up, I see a round moon, I see a round sun, I see round planets everywhere else, but not this planet. So once a person, and of course, all of that comes from a misinterpretation of old testament um mythology. Oh, it says the firmament, and it says this, it says that, it da da da. Like you transl, you you reading something that is a translation of a translation of a lie of a translation of a translation of a translation.

SPEAKER_07 2:29:08

That thing been translated so much, and yeah, old-fashioned mindsets get the fuck out of here. Yeah, I mean, it is what it is. We have a state now where I yeah, space travel. Look, there's more than they can make a submarine, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 2:29:27

You mean to tell me that we can make a submarine that that in the pressure of the earth where if I went down here by myself, my body would crush into a blob of blood, right? But you mean to tell me we can do that, but we can't get to space, which is the same premise. Yeah, we can make an airplane and a submarine, but we can't put them two concepts together. Well, distance of time, but there are satellites, but there's satellites in space, right?

SPEAKER_07 2:29:49

There's satellites in space, but um, they're not required to move and travel and go back and forth. I mean, there is exhaustion of gas. I mean, we gotta know how much fuel is.

SPEAKER_02 2:29:59

Because we've we've gone to satellite, we've gone to satellites and done being we've gone to satellites and space shuttles to do repairs. Absolutely, that is true. So that's what I'm saying. We like we've been to space, yeah. Yeah, you know, it's like the question is so like anytime you remember, we talked about this before, conspiracy theory has to have a purpose to it. We know why they hide the molestation, right? That's incriminating, that's fucked up. You what you're doing. Who's gonna get hurt by the by space travel? Like, who's affected by who the fuck can't like what is that doing for me and my is how is that affecting the aliens?

SPEAKER_07 2:30:34

They want to tell us about the aliens yet, man. They wanna they wanna keep it all on the hush, man. They don't want to talk about but they already they're doing that too. Cecil, Cecil is keeping everything. She don't want the public to know about all this going on, Cecil.

SPEAKER_02 2:30:50

Yeah, all right, and then the fact is is that a concerted effort, like when you got you got um Iran right now given going hard with the cold war with these memes, talking about the Epstein files and all that so the belief that there's a global concert of everybody in agreement that we're gonna lie about the earth being flat. These same people who are at war with each other and don't like each other and expose every other secret when they go into war, but they still keep that one secret during these times. Like, we gotta really think about how it plays out, like the world is not concerted like that in agreement, and clearly not because Iran is spilling all the shit.

SPEAKER_07 2:31:31

Yeah, they are, you know, like they put off more you can chew.

SPEAKER_09 2:31:37

Like oh, for real? This is what we're doing. Oh they get way in right now. Like they saying everything everybody thinking, it's like, oh shit, like oh shit, hey, hold up, they up and this too, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 2:31:50

So there's like you know, so I don't know keep coming, it's gonna cost us millions. What about them? Oh, they're using the cheat missile, so they could afford to pop off.

SPEAKER_02 2:32:00

Hey, they shot a missile with loser on it, they had loser written on the side. This is this is great. This is way better than the cold war with Russia. Like, that was different. This is a whole nother level. Like, this is they shoot back, like this war is a rap battle, and we're Drake.

SPEAKER_09 2:32:23

Yeah, we're Drake in the day.

SPEAKER_02 2:32:28

Oh my goodness, they spilling everything. Meet the grams, meet the grams, but meet the trumps in that space. Somebody brought up an interesting point. They said Trump might be doing all of this intentionally, it's all a ploy.

SPEAKER_07 2:32:46

Um, well, now we're gonna get to conspiracy theories. Um, new war order, rule number 180, the record business is shady. Yes, this could be all to um deteriorate the the the dollar and the currency and go all digital, get them little chips and no, it's the opposite actually before. Or um the what is it?

SPEAKER_02 2:33:06

Um go ahead. No, the the actual what he what the what this what's happening is that if he blocks off that um canal over there that is that's gonna block oil distribution. Remember, he just took over um Venezuela, which is the one which is the largest oil supply in the world. So we control that. He's in the process of getting a handle over Canada and Mexico. So what'll happen is the US, the world would need to come to the US for everything for resources because we'll have everything under our um clutches, making us a singular island of of necessity, where before we were slowly merging into the world economy and becoming just another country. Okay, he's he's he's positioning us to become everybody's financial benefactor. We're we're gonna become everybody's sugar daddy, yeah. Pretty much, yeah. America, I should say. I shouldn't say we, because Iran. And all of you others, I have no decisions in this matter.

SPEAKER_07 2:34:03

I am oh, we have nothing to do with nothing. This is all part of this. Yeah, this is all we don't wave that flag like that. You know what I mean? And I mean to that business. Yeah, I stand on that. I stand on that first, you know, and that that could be anywhere on this planet Earth. I stand on earth, right? You know what I mean? That's where I'm from. I stand on earth. I ain't uh from Chicago, Illinois. That's where I'm from. I'm proud of our city and state, no matter all the fucked up shit that's going on in here, but still, we stand on business. We don't we don't ride with advocate with we walk differently, we walk very differently in this country. We don't fuck around, we don't fuck around.

SPEAKER_02 2:34:45

So um and I know you know that because Qaddafi told y'all how what was up. So I hope y'all listened to him before they got him.

SPEAKER_07 2:34:52

Yeah, you know, it is what it is. There's a lot of talkers and from you know, yeah, from that manner from Chicago. We got connects, so we ain't on that bullshit here. I'm proud of us, man. Now we don't roll like we don't try to get into that shit, you know. I mean, so we good, we good. So um, but shout out to the real ones, shout out to the real ones out there. Um, funny thing, and then I'll let you go. Uh, there's this dude who does trash bars on the internet. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What happened?

SPEAKER_02 2:35:28

What'd he do?

SPEAKER_07 2:35:29

He said Buster Rhymes is the king of trash bars. He's the king, he's the king. Bus the rhymes, Buster Rhymes. He first he did go. I seen one where he did Ghost Face Nutmeg, scientific, romantic, romanticizated. You know, that whole scheme of rhyme that he did on um Supreme Clientele, he said that was trash to a point where Riza responded was like, No, he's rhyming on the one and three, and these are words that he put together, it actually makes sense if you think about it.

SPEAKER_02 2:36:04

He broke his weird, which is like CL Smooth weird to me, like the like ghost face rhymes like CL Smooth. Like, if you really listen to Ghostface and then go listen to old CL Smooth, that shit is the same. Like y'all saying some shit, but it's like y'all saying it's so weird. Like, why did you you found that that metaphor is? I get it, but why did you say it that way? No, but it's crazy, it's like your mind, like why are they trash bars?

SPEAKER_07 2:36:36

Are they trash bars now? No, no, all right.

SPEAKER_09 2:36:40

So if you listen to Bus the Rhymes, you know, Buster Rhymes said he said, What you know one of them sounds he said he changed, he like my name.

SPEAKER_07 2:36:53

He said, like my name is Chuck Norris, make you feel the chorus, and then I change it to a walrus, but that's the style, that's his style.

SPEAKER_02 2:37:04

He's he transforms into dragons and monsters, and that's always been his MO.

SPEAKER_07 2:37:09

Like that on the versal scenario is trash. He said the chocolate chickens. What the fuck is a chocolate chicken?

SPEAKER_02 2:37:15

I know what that is. That was women, the rear cock diesel, the beats they was kicking. That's women, like Buster had crazy metaphors, they were wild, weird metaphors. But again, it was weird. That's what I said. These guys may say some weird shit, but that's the thing. If every rapper said things the same way after a while, ain't nothing to listen to.

SPEAKER_07 2:37:38

Now, all the other boxes was checked. Now, I'm just joking, I'm just trashing. But Buster Rhymes is a very dope performer. Buster Rhymes is very creative when it comes to the visuals. Buster Rhymes is the MC when it comes on. You get that attention of that presence, you know. And Buster Rhymes has changed the game in so many ways. Buster Rhymes do rap fast at the ability where he could challenge Twister. I heard it for my own song. This one of my favorite Buster Rhymes songs is a song with him and Twister going back and forth. Him and Mystical went back and forth. You know what I mean? Buster Rhymes do make records. I seen him work in clubs, he has hits. I've seen him work, I seen him perform live, captivate the crowd. So yeah, to say that Buster lyrical is he still lyrically strong enough. You could go back to Nas, of course.

SPEAKER_02 2:38:33

You could go back to his lyrically strong enough. His last but like a lot of people don't. I don't know if everybody says this, but Buster's lyrics, his last few albums was crazy. Like, after, like, what was that? Um the um judgment day, anarchy, anarchy anarchy was cold.

SPEAKER_07 2:38:51

I love anarchy.

SPEAKER_02 2:38:53

Anarchy's lyrics is probably some of the coldest periods.

SPEAKER_07 2:38:58

He had a lot of Dilla beats on there, man. And he burnt them mugs, he killed them beats.

SPEAKER_02 2:39:03

He slayed every single one. He had Ghost and Ray on there with the heist with Rock Martiano before that was early rock when he was still with um with his crew with the conglomerate, yeah. Yeah, man. Nah, I ain't trying to hear that. You know, Buster had stoveguard too. Yep, Buster had man.

SPEAKER_07 2:39:21

Listen, Buster had hit us. I'm surprised he didn't know about Grizelda because I I swear to god, that'll be right up his album. But no, what do you think he didn't know about Grizelda? Because he didn't. We knew about Grizelda before Buster. He said that, yeah. New York got on late with Grizelda, man.

SPEAKER_02 2:39:38

Yeah, but to not know about him is weird because how he ended up knowing about OT Genesis, but didn't know about Westside because it's probably more in his face, but he knew, but Rock Marciano knew about them, and you with Rock Marciano as well.

SPEAKER_07 2:39:50

Rock Marciano was on his own shit for a minute. That's true. Rock Marciano was making a name for him. Boy, I gotta make a name for myself. He went gambit on niggas. He had hey, I heard gambit at doomsday, boy. Yeah, Shannon Gambit is in doomsday. While we on that bullshit, Shannon won. Congrats. I thought they was gonna recast for homeboy, but no, Remy in that I did for myself.

SPEAKER_09 2:40:18

He did that. Hey, I wonder if he could keep that voice.

SPEAKER_02 2:40:21

He got to, he gotta keep the voice because that shit was real. That was Gambit. I couldn't even front when I heard it.

SPEAKER_07 2:40:28

He's fighting Shang Chi. I heard man. I heard, yeah, I heard Gambit in that bitch. So we'll see fighting Shang Chi. Hey, they mixing it up. I heard a lot of Avengers is going against the X-Men. X-Men C you know, that X-Men scene. Avengers are showing up, you know. I mean, and Doom showing is a lot. I heard a lot of shit. Doom coming and everybody running. That's all I know. The AI coming, the people running.

SPEAKER_11 2:40:57

AI coming. Hey, just wait. That's it.

SPEAKER_07 2:41:02

Ah, something you can take your shoes off and tap your feet to, you know.

SPEAKER_02 2:41:10

Yeah, everybody. I mean, it's time now, man. It's time for all of that. Yeah, man. We ain't we almost there, man. We only got the rest of this year to make it as long as Trump don't do something stupid.

SPEAKER_07 2:41:19

Oh, now you on that shit. Nah, nah. You were saying. Oh, we're we we walk around like we're today. Invincible. I don't want to say the word. I can't say the word no more. They says thrag made mark vincible now. He ain't invincible. Hey, Vince. Hey, there's a there was a post. There was a post that I had shared because it was funny as hell. It was a scared note. It was like a funny note. Uh, yeah, here it is, right here. Dear Mark Invincible, my brother in space Christ. Listen to me and listen to me well. I feel you. Because if nobody else feels you, nigga, I feel you. Because if I was you, I'd be doing the exact thing, making that same exact face. And this is the face that was shown when he was on the run, the thrag and shit. He was like, Man, that's a face of pure unadulterated fear, but not only that, a face of regret, a face of maybe I shouldn't have blown this nigga planet up, a face of confusion, because that was your dad's idea. Yeah, there you go.

SPEAKER_09 2:42:25

That's the face. That's the face.

SPEAKER_07 2:42:29

You even looked at this motherfucker three times and asked him, like, yo, we really gonna do this, not because of the planet blowing up, because then you knew the grand regent walking y'all niggas down with a Freddie Mercury stash thread is going to walk y'all down.

SPEAKER_02 2:42:48

God damn. Hey, that's hilarious, man.

SPEAKER_11 2:42:53

That is about as fearful as it can get. That's it.

SPEAKER_07 2:42:58

That show makes your heart race because he's not scared. I'm scared too. Like, I'm scared. I was scared for tech jacket. I thought he was gonna kill that little girl out there. Here the other one, yeah. So that's the um that's the art shit.

SPEAKER_02 2:43:15

See, look at the look at the power in Mark's punch. See that energy? Yeah, Mark was coming with some shit, and he saw it. He said, Okay, bet. Because he the only Mark is the only person that made him pull out that type of defense. No one else did that.

SPEAKER_07 2:43:30

Yeah, no one else ever did that.

SPEAKER_02 2:43:32

Not even Nolan. No, nobody pulled out nobody. So that's that's a statement. Can't wait.

SPEAKER_07 2:43:38

So that showed him that's the perfect mix of their breed, and that's where they're going to do what they gotta do. Because he could have killed Mark, but he chose not to. It's not because the Voltramites, I think just because Mark is something special, he's the perfect crossbreed hybrid. And um, I ain't gonna kill you. I ain't I got some other plans for you. I got a better to do. I'm about to go give you a brother or a dog, a daughter, and like I'm about to give a whole family, and you're gonna lead them, and you're gonna be the victim.

SPEAKER_02 2:44:12

You're gonna be me because I can train you to be me, and then that's the thing, he was specially bred that way, but Mark was born from a human and by a regular Viltramite, and he's like, Oh, you got some power in you, right?

SPEAKER_07 2:44:25

Right, that level of power to make him have to go full on, yeah, yeah, yeah. Which was crazy. That's dangerous, that's dangerous because he just dodged Nolan, he wasn't even worried about Nolan's punch. Nolan was so slow motion and shit, like, oh Nolan, man. What the fuck happened? He was fast.

SPEAKER_02 2:44:46

He's still fast, but that's just but the thing is, is compared to him, that's how slow he looks. That's what that's supposed to represent.

SPEAKER_07 2:44:53

He's still hands. That's why I say I didn't like Nolan because he didn't put hands on Conquest. He didn't put never saw Conquest, did he? He saw Conquest. When did that go? When he was about to swap Oliver, bitch ass. Get Oliver, go and get some muscle, man. Go back home to mom, protect mom, man. Uh, stop getting into these big man fights because you ain't quit for that, man. Conquest is about to swat his ass like a fly. Where was Nolan at man? He tagged me fighting somebody. Oh man, he's supposed to be in hands on Conquest. He'll go mark in his guts, Conquest really I'm gonna get away. Watch these ventramite niggas get all up in your guts. Watch these venture mite niggas get all up in your guts, man.

SPEAKER_02 2:45:33

I'm more concerned about Anisa than um Conquest, and then that that black dude and that white dude be tag teaming everybody.

SPEAKER_07 2:45:41

Yeah, Lucas and uh the white dude. Yeah, they be shaking. Lucas look like uh uh uh was that comedian?

SPEAKER_09 2:45:49

Uh what's that comedian?

SPEAKER_08 2:45:53

Whoa, Steve Harvey Steve No, oh no, oh I cannot see that now.

SPEAKER_11 2:46:06

I'm done. I'm done. Oh shit, oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_06 2:46:12

Uh Drag, what we gonna do, Drag? What are we gonna do?

SPEAKER_11 2:46:16

No, I'm done. I'm can't I can't with you. We're gonna do what we do all the time.

SPEAKER_07 2:46:26

Yeah, he's calm. Because he ain't gotta be, he ain't gotta worry about nothing. Why I gotta get hype, but when you say I choose death, it was over. Yeah, you blew up that nigga planet, you saw that.

SPEAKER_02 2:46:41

We done seen some vicious Viltramites, and and Mark has survived them all.

SPEAKER_07 2:46:46

That's why he's in say it.

SPEAKER_02 2:46:51

I love that. Remember that one episode where they kept saying it and it kept doing yeah, they kept doing it right. That was when the twins, the brawlers.

SPEAKER_07 2:46:59

Oh I missed them so much. See, that show grown to other yeah, emotions. I love them. I missed them. Yeah, I missed them.

SPEAKER_02 2:47:07

They was funny as hell.

SPEAKER_07 2:47:08

It was my guy, and they had some deep ass voices, like, yeah, and they be arguing with each other, you're not the original fool. So what follow me, go this way, and I figure out the plan anyway, so I'll show you, and then he ended up dying.

SPEAKER_08 2:47:22

He'd be like, Oh, I'm the original now.

SPEAKER_04 2:47:24

I'm the original now.

SPEAKER_11 2:47:27

That shit was hilarious. Love it, man. So wow, yeah, it has come a long way when you think all the way back to that.

SPEAKER_02 2:47:35

Yeah, but I'm looking for that that um fucking turn dinosaur dude to come back. He's very pivotal to Mark's story.

SPEAKER_07 2:47:42

That's what I heard. That's what I heard. Yeah, I heard he's coming back.

SPEAKER_02 2:47:44

I heard I like his character. He he's the one that really pushes Mark. So Mark level up with him, yeah. Because this dude, number one, is a different type of fighter. Okay, he got the claws, and he's fast, and he got the tail. Like, he got a lot of he's like one of them green things, yeah. Yeah, green aliens, what I call xenomorphs, right? Right, right.

SPEAKER_07 2:48:06

So, yeah, he need and he needs that, like so. He needs a more savage fight to get him more because you know it's all fly punch.

SPEAKER_02 2:48:15

You need if Mark fought, if Mark fought against Battle Beast, that would have helped too. But Battle Beast don't want to fight Mark. He already said you weak.

SPEAKER_09 2:48:24

Battle Pizza, love Battle Beast.

SPEAKER_07 2:48:29

No, I want a real challenge because Battle Beast is trying to die. He don't like that curse, he don't like that curse he's on, so he wants to die. So he's really trying to find that opponent that could give him the victorious get him there, get him there to where he died.

SPEAKER_08 2:48:44

He told dude, I'm on a glorious death. Maybe it's you, you that's not funny as hell. Dude, dude did try to hit him.

SPEAKER_11 2:48:55

He's like, I guess not. I guess not.

SPEAKER_07 2:48:57

He hell, but dude, he hit the dude with that scepter, it was a rap. That was funny as hell, because he was just like, Nope. I want to see the battle beast spinoff because that's one of my favorite characters. Shout out to him just traveling through the universe wilding out. Yeah, he just traveled through the universe trying to find the one, trying to find that fight, and then in the midst of that, he gets into adventures and allies, and you know, it becomes a space.

SPEAKER_02 2:49:23

Alan is like, yeah, Allen is like Goku because Allen is the one he should have been fighting, but Alan make everybody an ally. Battle Beast and Alan would have oh, Battle Beast and Alan, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 2:49:34

When they made it, they had a um um, they had a little uh demo better for the invincible versus as well, yeah, during the past week. I played it, it's pretty good. It's a butt, it's a button basher to me. You know what I mean? If you went to like Mortal Kombat, it's not really the more technique, and it's more like just who hits first, yeah. It's just who hit first and then it's combos, so it's combo thing. Yeah, I guess that's fun for kids. Oh, yeah, knocking in the air, and it's like the Dragon Ball Fighter Z. It's like you know, it's like Mortal Kombat because it got the big um fatalities and stuff too, and it's no Hadook, it's no Hadoop moves that do because none of them do any shooting, none of them the only person is what um Eve. Oh, Eve and uh Rex, he got Rex. That's it, yeah. That's the only one. But you ain't gotta do no Hadookans. I was like, oh man, because I was like, I'm about to pop nah, it's just a button.

SPEAKER_05 2:50:33

Just press the button.

SPEAKER_07 2:50:34

Okay, button mashing, but it's cool, just just to uh see the fighting game. I want to see if it grows and what it do with it. I didn't play the story because they didn't have the story on there, so uh we'll see how that go. But uh no, overall, invincible is the shit. I'm telling y'all right here, right now, it's flying earth certified in the next 10 years or so. It will be down as a motherfucking cult classic because 100. We ain't never seen no shit like this before. No animation that I seen. X-Men 97 is coming, so it may be.

SPEAKER_02 2:51:22

So now we're at a point where we're seeing people with that level of power, and this kind of goes into that. Remember that conversation we was having about Superman. It's like everybody keeps saying he could do all these things, but you never see him doing it because they never give him a fucking story.

SPEAKER_07 2:51:35

So, are they lowballing? They lowballing Superman apparently. If he can do all this shit, but he never has to do it. All right, so we even talk about the boys now. The boys is back too. The boys is back in town, and um, I don't know, the story is the same. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:51:52

The best thing was when him and um when his um when the when the when the when the um what's his name? When the boys soldier boy is the best part about the show right now.

SPEAKER_07 2:52:01

I like soldier boys, so he's the wild card is the best part, yeah. And now he and he's immortal now. It's like ah because he's like, Oh, this can't kill me either.

SPEAKER_05 2:52:10

Yeah, it's like okay, all right.

SPEAKER_02 2:52:12

I guess I just realized that he's the play not only on Captain America, but winner soldier too. Like they put him back on ice, they put him, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 2:52:19

They put him back on ice, and then you know, and now everybody thinks he's a Russian spy. That's just hilarious. That's just hilarious.

SPEAKER_11 2:52:24

That's winter soldier shit. That's just hilarious. Hey, he punched that dude, he said, That's for being dumb.

SPEAKER_10 2:52:30

Yeah, I was not a response.

SPEAKER_07 2:52:36

Soldier boy is to the T one of my favorite characters. Um, I like, um, but you know, I don't like her talking, fam.

SPEAKER_11 2:52:45

I don't you don't like her talking? Nah, she needs to shut up. That that threw that threw the shit off.

SPEAKER_02 2:52:50

It really ruined the whole point, yeah. The whole point with her because now she talked, like you know, she says stuff, and it's just be like, What is what did we what I you know, like it was the characters were where they were, they just needed to finish the fucking story.

SPEAKER_07 2:53:04

Hey man, they dancing around, man. They gotta give you eight more episodes of this, man.

SPEAKER_02 2:53:10

So like they didn't explain. So when Soldier Boy healed from the virus, did he completely like there's no trace of it, so he can't infect anybody else? Like, he's not a carrier, like that was wild to me.

SPEAKER_07 2:53:23

I don't even know the whole schematics of how they're doing that because they had perfect opportunities to use this virus with Homelander, but they just well, the only time they had was that boy. Hey, he the boy is definitely the that was a perfect time by they had a time he could have showed up, he showed up to the site where they was at anyway. He was chasing them down, they're the target. So if they came outside, Homelander would eventually show up. I just spring the trap on him.

SPEAKER_02 2:53:52

They could have got done with this a long time ago. Apparently, nobody else was willing to die for it because Butcher would have been the perfect person to get Homelander to um take that virus, but Butcher don't want to die. So he's putting other people up to it. Yeah, he doesn't want to die because you know, you know, if Butcher showed up anywhere, Homelander wants to fight him because he said you the only person who tried no, because he respects him. He's like, You the only nigga that ever stands up to me. You everybody else be bitching up to me, right? You talk back and you actually make me feel like a regular person. I like that. So that's like his Joker Batman thing.

SPEAKER_07 2:54:25

Like, I like you because you all you the only person that actually give me on my you keep me, you respect you, you disrespect me, but respect me enough to make me feel but look, and now he's a he could take lasers to the chest, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:54:38

So now you can take my shit, so I can we can really go at it.

SPEAKER_07 2:54:43

What's up, son? What's up? You want to throw one? Yeah, so it's but he's scared, so butcher put the other motherfuckers up too, and I always got this devious plan that seemed like that's what I'm saying. It's corny at this point, and it's like it's over and over again, just get to it. And like you said, the boy definitely had an opportunity to do it, but he went, so it's like, damn, what's wrong with y'all?

SPEAKER_09 2:55:04

Like, what the fuck is going on?

SPEAKER_07 2:55:05

So and basically he did he did he did an omni man mark moment, yeah. He did, and that was definitely an omni man mark except that that boy didn't even do anything. I was like, Come on, man, come on, like he wasn't ready. Y'all biting, y'all bite. Hey, yo, you beat makers, stop biting Dilla, too. Man, let me get on my corner before we go. Stop biting. What's wrong with y'all? We used to have a thing called biting, and that was bad. Y'all be biting, man. Hey, stop biting Dilla, it's cool, it's cool. Make your beats. I when I get the MPC sample, I'm gonna be making beats too.

SPEAKER_09 2:55:43

Little funky little beats, little little hippie hoppy, a little hippie hop hops, the hip the hops. But I ain't gonna be taking this.

SPEAKER_07 2:55:51

I ain't gonna be sound like stewie. Yeah, that's little hip hop.

SPEAKER_08 2:56:00

Little hip hop, huh? You're gonna be a little DJ, you're gonna do a little scratchy scratch.

SPEAKER_02 2:56:06

Little knot head, not factor. Hey, but you know what? They not, it's not just like because this I don't think they know how to they're using the beat packs too. If you find see, and that's it's not paying homage, it's not paying homage, that's direct copy.

SPEAKER_07 2:56:21

Okay, so it's direct copy, it's not paying homage, it's direct copy. Y'all niggas using these little beat packs, see all sampling to use sample effects, little huh? What you know, all that right, same old stuff. Like, don't do that. Develop your yeah, I'm saying that out of the kindness of my heart. Hey, get your own shit, yeah. Get your own shit, man. Get your own shit from the bottom of my heart. Get your own shit, man, because you that legacy is done. You're not gonna carry on that legacy, nor do you need to. We don't need to need to do that, you don't need to just do you find your own sound, develop your own sound and take it from there. You take what he did because his sound is Pete Rock's, is Rizza, it is Eric Sermon. You know, it's a lot of flavors that it's Q-tip, it's a lot of flavors that Dilla has, and he mastered all that shit because he actually knows the theory of music as well. So it's a lot of steps, y'all. Black Milk got a new album coming out. Check that out. Shout out to Casual, he got a dope ass song. Casual song is dope as fuck. Whatever the album. What's the name of the album?

SPEAKER_02 2:57:36

Are you talking about Black Magic?

SPEAKER_07 2:57:38

Black Magic, yeah. There you go. Um, that's pretty dope, man. Casual, hieroglyphics. He he they influenced other motherfuckers. It's coming out now. How influential on West Coast and hieroglyphics were too other MCs, too. So, you know, all that shit's coming out. So nah, man. Um, yeah, dude.

SPEAKER_02 2:57:59

Yeah, no biting on any level, fam. Like, no, no biting anything. Don't don't bite people's concepts and then try to do them before they do it. Don't bite people's branding and try to try to try to be be it before they are. Don't like all this. This and what's really it come down to is if y'all losing y'all mojo and y'all getting like creative blocks or whatever, then y'all need to go out in the street and y'all need to live a little, live some life and get off the internet. Some inspiration. There's an abundance of inspiration in the world. You just need to be out there to receive it. But yeah, you're not gonna, you're not gonna get better, and you're not gonna get a spark of creativity if all you do is duplicate.

SPEAKER_07 2:58:36

It's taking some other manuscript, yeah, duplicating, copy, and paste them. Man, you don't do all that, man. You do that, you gotta type your own, make your own fonts, man. Don't don't don't take other niggas' styles.

SPEAKER_02 2:58:46

Still the art, but don't let people know you stole it.

SPEAKER_07 2:58:48

Yeah, you can make it your own. You make it your own. It should be, yeah, it should be your own, and that's all I'm saying.

SPEAKER_02 2:58:55

Your signature is not if I can't identify your signature in this in the whatever you create, and I can recognize somebody else's signature before your own, then that means that it's bit.

SPEAKER_05 2:59:06

Yeah, it's fit.

SPEAKER_02 2:59:07

I should be able to identify a unique signature that is yours that does not exist anywhere else that I don't know that's always your song. We all knew when the P Rock song came out.

SPEAKER_05 2:59:15

That's it.

SPEAKER_02 2:59:16

We all knew we all knew when the DJ premiere, yeah. We knew a certain sound that everybody had, like, like P Rock had a particular go-to snare. Yeah, he had a particular go-to like sound, like warm bass line.

SPEAKER_07 2:59:31

Wait, warm bass.

SPEAKER_02 2:59:32

He had a certain way to filter stuff, and like, for example, Pete Rock did not filter things the same way Showbiz did, and Showbears didn't filter the same way Q-tip did, or Premier. They all filtered their bass lines with different frequencies, yeah, with certain things in certain places. The the the metrics were different, so the bass lines would sound different.

SPEAKER_07 2:59:52

So it's different pockets they was choosing and using, you know what I mean? And pockets is just points of the music and frequencies where they could get where you could just get crazy and that's the cozy spot of the beat or the music.

SPEAKER_02 3:00:07

That's where you work, that's your frequency that you operate at. But if you are using the same frequency as someone else because you like them, but then you say, Well, you know what, I'm gonna use the same snare as them too. You know what? I'm gonna use the same kick frequency as them too. Because on this one song, it's my favorite song. That's the kick snare and the frequency of bass they use. Suddenly, you realize that's their song, right? You know, it's like if I loop a song, it's cool, but I gotta do something to it to jazz it up, you know, licensing rights and shit. Play with it, man. Be creative. That's creative, man. Stop by, don't be Elvis Presley with this shit.

SPEAKER_07 3:00:40

Yeah, don't be nobody with this shit. Be you. That's all. Definitely don't be AI with this, can't can't. Yeah, because AI, hey man, that's now. Hey man, play me some beats. I'm on blah blah blah. Fine. Here you go. What's that voice? That's the robot sound wave.

SPEAKER_04 3:01:00

Here you go, as you command megatron beats for you, no super producer. No, you get all the credit while I take over the world, right? Right, right.

SPEAKER_02 3:01:18

Oh, speaking of the vision, the new series, they're saying that's popping off with some dope shit, too. Oh, they say it's very weird, they say it's gonna it's very weird in the same vein as WandaVision. Oh, I'm like where like he's most of it is take like because he don't he's dead, or he's not really aware, he's still unconscious. So in his mind, he's trapped while the programming of this white vision is in control of the body. So in his mind is threads of Utron and other, and he's trying, he's debating himself, him and Ultron and shit. Is all it's like a whole world in their head where they look like humans and shit. They said it's gonna be very stylized and crazy. So I'm with that. And they say Ultron is back in a very real way, like it's not just some like some crazy shit, it's like it's it's a fragment of Ultron's programming that is inside of Vision still, and it takes it finally rewrites itself and becomes Ultron again.

SPEAKER_07 3:02:13

Oh, I'm with that. So that's dope. That's some weird Steve Marvel going weird. They going, they taking it to those spots where they need to take it, man. Because um yeah, this daredevil is is pretty, they saying fuck there's a lot of shit going on on that show, you know, and they just doing their diligence now to bring that brand out in these little pockets. It's time, yeah. It's time, it's time. So now I'm with that, man.

SPEAKER_02 3:02:41

Because as I as we talked about, and we know what's gonna happen post um secret wars. Um Earth is gonna 616, all the all the characters are gonna be on 616 at the same time. So I think that's gonna be a combination of the original Avengers and the new Avengers and Falcon's Avengers and Um the X-Men. You know what I'm saying? It's gonna be all these dudes finally on Earth's four.

SPEAKER_07 3:03:11

Yeah, Fantastic Four Condians as well. Everybody's gonna be on Earth.

SPEAKER_02 3:03:16

Everybody, this is gonna be the this is gonna be the only Earth after it's over with.

SPEAKER_07 3:03:20

This is it. This is it. This is it, and now their pool, we've seen though, they they survive like all these motherfuckers now. They should just do the blade with Wesley, but that's a different conversation now. But um, all these motherfuckers is on one timeline, one earth, Loki, Thor, all these motherfuckers. That's the whole point of this, is to make this one universe, even Spider-Man and all this bullshit. So, you know, all this is one universe now, and then hey, if they want to do a multiverse down the line, it is what it is. But this was to truncate. There was a funny thing with Chris Evans saying, Yeah, it took a lot for me. I said I was only gonna do in game, I wasn't gonna come back. It had to be a big reason for me to come back. And you look at the comments, everyone said, Oh, it's that check, nigga. It was that check nigga. I got to make it. Nah, because it I don't think it was a check, though. Stop playing, nigga. We you get that call, nigga, you know what's coming, but nah, I think it is. I think he cares about it either. It's camaraderie, it's camaraderie shit of um the um Russo's coming back that's the crew getting the band back together, you know, getting the band back together again. And um, why not?

SPEAKER_02 3:04:30

You know, I mean, I'm still alive here to do it, and I think it's gonna be a different version of Steve Rogers because uh we're gonna see different versions of it'll be, but even if it's the same version, it'll be a different version because this is the Steve Rogers who went through who went through time putting all of this the stuff, the stones and stuff back, and then settling down and having a wife and a kid. So that's a different Steve Rogers after all that. Who knows what he'll be like?

SPEAKER_07 3:04:55

Yeah, so we don't know what he's seen and what his travels have been through. So um, yeah, I'm definitely excited. Um, in regards to that. Um wait, there was um oh Disney did lay off 1,000, um, over a thousand workers.

SPEAKER_02 3:05:19

It was uh I I mean good, but at the same time, I understand what the initial concern is.

SPEAKER_07 3:05:24

What so you gonna say good and a bunch of motherfuckers losing their job?

SPEAKER_02 3:05:27

No, because this is what I'm listening to what I'm telling you. This is no, this is it's good because that these people should never have like this is why they were burnt out, is because they were working non-stop on projects, and they would know and there's no diversity in the creativity when you they need to all go work for independent developers who will design and do graphics and and all that, and then Marvel contracts them that way because there's a lot of there's a lot of work in that space to do. Marvel tried to hold them all on like do the Disney way and control everything, but it doesn't work. You can't do it that way, like you gotta let you gotta contract it out every single time so that you can get the right people for the right the right special effects.

SPEAKER_07 3:06:09

But Disney also said they're gonna lean over to more AI um use. I don't believe that.

SPEAKER_02 3:06:19

I don't believe that.

SPEAKER_07 3:06:20

I believe videos of Kang and you send me Kang getting beat by motherfuckers. Don't ever send me a video with a bunch of black men getting beat by one white man, bro. Like, I'm not hearing that. You're not gonna walk in no coliseum full of Kanges and all of them just gonna fucking just die because you walked in the room. Nah, they ain't impressive to me. Now I don't care who Doom is, I don't want to see that shit. You kill off Kang. You better respect my authority, boy.

SPEAKER_02 3:06:49

I just like that they look real for a change. But see, there you go. But I don't think I don't think they're gonna do that. I don't think they're gonna do that. And the reason why I don't think that I need see, see again, there's a difference between AI and special effects.

SPEAKER_07 3:07:02

AI is a part of the special effects, AI is already in Photoshops and is in I know, but what I'm saying is that it's gonna take a profession, it takes a professional to make AI work.

SPEAKER_02 3:07:15

Yeah, but you suck, you suck. It takes a professional to make it look good.

SPEAKER_07 3:07:19

Nigga, we talking about special effects here.

SPEAKER_02 3:07:21

They took away all the visual teams, and if you could put in a prompt where you got no, no, no, they no, but the actual article said they were taking away the teams from under their house so that they can, and then they were gonna contract out the special effects for each project, right? Okay, so that's what I'm saying. Like each, like so.

SPEAKER_07 3:07:38

Well, also they are moving. Uh they used to shoot in Georgia, they're moving, they're going to do low shooting more overseas because of healthcare issues and all that shit. So they are making changes and doing things. It's changing with the times. I mean, you know, really, they're just trying to get away from because the thing is, America, people don't want to come to America no more, right? And not only that's the taxes. We were saying this before with filmmaking, the taxes and all that shit. We were saying this years ago. So the tax and all that shit, and here we are, and this shit's getting worse. And motherfuckers high tailing it up out of here.

SPEAKER_02 3:08:13

Yeah, because a lot of the professionals come from other countries, and that's true too. Yeah, so if they don't want to come to America no more, yeah, you gotta go to them.

SPEAKER_07 3:08:33

Yeah, they don't want to, you know, they having too many issues traveling or they feel safer at home, you know what I mean? Those ice advisories everywhere. You know that? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Ice advisories are everywhere, especially in those countries. So ain't no telling where they might get hit by something, you know, calling the crossfire. So they want to be involved. People is up and leaving. And it is what it is. So um that's the full scope of things. I think we covered a lot here because a lot has been going on. Like I said, every season gets heavy, you know what I mean? It is what it is. So um, if we didn't introduce ourselves, we are the fly and air group. We talk about the culture and everything else in between. We are that team, I am the grand regent, and I see Cosmo Galactus. Wave cap cars, wave cap cars, do rag cars. I used to have the do-rag wave caps all the time. Check out the pictures, check out my old pictures. I used to have that. And I'm joining, hey man, Thrag, thanks for joining. You know what I mean? Thanks for joining the team. I always got my villains, you know, with Thanos and Megatron and Doom, you know, those my niggas, you know what I mean? So it's I'm happy to include you on my top villains list, man. Because I ain't never seen nothing so smooth in all of my life, man. And that's pretty remarkable to impress me after all the shit that I seen in my motherfucking career, life, times, and in kid enjoyment of villains from Darth Vader on down. I ain't never seen nothing so smooth like that before. So smooth, make you want to remove your shoes, man. Give it up for do-rag thrag. This is your episode tonight. Um give it up for give it up.

SPEAKER_02 3:10:37

You are part of the crew until you show up here starting shit.

SPEAKER_07 3:10:44

Hey man, go ahead. Some of these niggas need to go. I just point you to some of them. Hey, go and get him. He's a snitch, he a snitch, he a tired. Go and get him, he's a snitch.

SPEAKER_02 3:10:57

Her too.

SPEAKER_07 3:11:00

Get him, get him, get him, yeah. Oh, wipe all wipe them all. Yeah, you do, yeah. You already did it. Thank you. Yeah, man. Do rag thrag. Now, I'm sorry, I cut you off.

SPEAKER_02 3:11:14

No, no, no, you didn't. I said I'm Ambi Warhol, but I think everybody knows by now who we are.

SPEAKER_07 3:11:20

Yeah, man. We the flying earth group. We just having some fun. Uh subscribe, share, tell your friends. May 3rd, you get to see us in person. So take advantage of that. And uh it's gonna be a great time. We'll be in the streets near you. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:11:36

Near you. We be on all the blocks. All of them. Block talk.

SPEAKER_07 3:11:42

Yo, my new dynasty. Yeah. Yo, yo.